Searching for the Truth in the King James Bible;
Finding it, and passing it on to you.

Steve Van Nattan



By Steve Van Nattan

Here are TEN presuppositions under which prophecy is discussed at this web site:

ONE-  Many prophecies to Israel are not fulfilled, especially about the return of Messiah Jesus Christ to rule and reign for 1000 years in Jerusalem.  We reject the notion that some obscure Greek captain of one hundred fulfilled all the prophetic events in the Prophets.  "Dispensational" is the key word, but NOT "Hyper."

TWO-  We believe all of the prophecies to Moab, Ammon, and the Arab peoples (descended from Ishmael and the sons of Keturah) will also be fulfilled.  We will not allow ANY Jew OR Arab hatred on this page.  Arab bashing by wanna-be Zionists will be EXPOSED on this page, not tolerated. See our section on Hebrew Roots heresy.

THREE-  Reformed theology is a mongrel exercise in wimpology.  Why?  Answer:  Because it appeals in a "Christian" context to Satanic pride.  WE can bring in the Kingdom  =  "I shall be like the Most High."  So all Reformed thinking, whether from Calvin Seminary, the Manifest Sons of God, the New Age, Identity, Promise Keepers, or TBN, will be absent from this section.

FOUR-  The Lord's Church will not go through the Wrath of God.  I Thes. 5:9.

FIVE-  The everlasting Gospel is ever and always by faith alone in the Son of the Living God, plus nothing.  This applies to the Great Tribulation and the Messianic Kingdom.  What happens AFTER a person's salvation experience is subject to Dispensational considerations.  

SIX-  True salvation cannot be lost under any circumstances.

SEVEN-  Every prophecy is to be taken literally.  If it is presented in picture form (Dragon) there is a reason, and the literal truth is still there.  Indeed, the Dragon may be a real physical dragon.  Nothing is to be discarded! God doesn't waste his divine Breath.

EIGHT-  A saint who has no zeal to win souls is highly suspect in his interpretation of prophecy.

NINE-  Numbers in the Bible have great significance.  Thus, nine presuppositions here.  Nine is the number of fruit.  There are nine letters in KING JAMES and in HOLY BIBLE and in the total of the integers, 1611.  You don't like that line of reasoning?  Forty laughs on you, friend.

TEN- Larkin's charts be damned. 


Thoughts on Living in Laodicea:
By Steve Van Nattan

Song of Solomon 3:3 The watchmen that go about the city found me: to whom I said, Saw ye him whom my soul loveth?
4 It was but a little that I passed from them, but I found him whom my soul loveth: I held him, and would not let him go.....
6 Who is this that cometh out of the wilderness like pillars of smoke, perfumed with myrrh and frankincense, with all powders of the merchant?

The bride in this narrative is looking for her beloved, and soon she sees him coming. Until then, she wandered about the city looking for him but not finding him.

The Bride of Christ today is wandering around the city of this wicked world and age. It is called Laodicea in the Revelation of Christ to John in chapter three. Many Bible believers are wandering around looking for the return of Christ. While we must never lose our hope, we may expect to be grieved and troubled. By whom? By a church which claims to follow Christ and His Gospel, but they deny the power of his Gospel.

1 Samuel 1:9 So Hannah rose up after they had eaten in Shiloh, and after they had drunk (finished their meal). Now Eli the priest sat upon a seat by a post of the temple of the LORD.
10 And she was in bitterness of soul, and prayed unto the LORD, and wept sore.
11 And she vowed a vow, and said, O LORD of hosts, if thou wilt indeed look on the affliction of thine handmaid, and remember me, and not forget thine handmaid, but wilt give unto thine handmaid a man child, then I will give him unto the LORD all the days of his life, and there shall no razor come upon his head.
12 And it came to pass, as she continued praying before the LORD, that Eli marked her mouth.
13 Now Hannah, she spake in her heart; only her lips moved, but her voice was not heard: therefore Eli thought she had been drunken.
14 And Eli said unto her, How long wilt thou be drunken? put away thy wine from thee.
15 And Hannah answered and said, No, my lord, I am a woman of a sorrowful spirit: I have drunk neither wine nor strong drink, but have poured out my soul before the LORD.
16 Count not thine handmaid for a daughter of Belial: for out of the abundance of my complaint and grief have I spoken hitherto.
17 Then Eli answered and said, Go in peace: and the God of Israel grant thee thy petition that thou hast asked of him.

As Hannah prayed for the mercy of God to give her power to conceive, and as Eli was so dull spiritually that he thought she was drunk, even so, the true saint today will be mocked if he has a zeal for the power of God and the deeper life. The Eli's of the Laodicean church era will yell at him, "Repent, get right! You are turning into a Pentecostal-- they are the only ones who talk about a new filling of the Holy Ghost."

Laodiceans look the other way when pride rises up in their own assembly, and they boast of their numbers, massive buildings, and riches. They look the other way when the preacher gets divorced and remarried, and they pass around booklets justifying this progressive polygamy, thus mocking the ongoing teaching of Jesus Christ himself on the matter. They feast on the wealth of one another, claiming they "tithed," while missionaries live in poverty. They turn times of worship and assembly into goon shows with true worship replaced by comedy and "comic relief." They bring in floor shows of Southern Gospel boogie boys and sexy girlie shows from "Christian colleges." They wear lapel tags which say "100% for Hyles", some dead beat who preached sloppy agape sermons while he hustled the church secretary on the side.

The true burden of the saints is not the Liberal Whiskeypalians-- It is being cast out of the synagogue for asking for biblical proof that Bible believers are called to rebel against Caesar, or for wanting a deeper walk with God.

The coming of Jesus Christ, the Groom for His Bride the Church, will be marked by two things:

1. Christ will deliver the Bride, true Bible believers, from living amongst tares and the weed protestute church in "good godly" fundamental and evangelical churches.

2. The true Bride Church will leave behind millions of tricky and clever phony saints to be dispatched by the Antichrist into eternity without Christ.

And, what about the tares now? We dare not pull them up, for in doing so, we would pull up wheat due to offenses. So, we shall soon be relieved by the gathering up of the Lord's Church. Meanwhile, we must not dispair, and we must keep looking for the Bridegroom, the Lord Jesus Christ.

Don't give up saint-- We've come too far to quit now!