We want to examine the modern church which
presents itself to us as a corporation housed in
a pile of stones (or a steel and glass box).

Steve Van Nattan




                                    THE HIDEOUS












Pagan religions have always been associated with their temples and buildings. Got allowed Israel to have a tabernacle, and later, a temple. But the Church Age has been distinguished from the Age of Law, among other distinctions, as the age when God dwells in the believer, not a building. As we progress through the Laodicean Age of Church history, as many as 95% of all Christians identify themselves with buildings. It is ironic that some Baptists call their buildings "Temple Baptist Church".

The emphasis of the building, the stone house, the cathedral is paramount to modern Christians of all denominations. The Body of Christ is officially the people, but in fact, the edifice, the gathering place, is ornamented far more than the Gospel preached (IF it is preached).

Here is a religion centered on a building.

How is your pride for your glorious building any different than Islam's pride over the Kaaba? Are YOU obsessed with your building, your "church"? If so, you are blaspheming God who taught us:


Mark 14:58 (KJV) We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands.

2 Corinthians 4:6 (KJV) For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

Acts 20:18 (KJV) And when they were come to him, he said unto them, Ye know, from the first day that I came into Asia, after what manner I have been with you at all seasons,
19 Serving the Lord with all humility of mind, and with many tears, and temptations, which befell me by the lying in wait of the Jews:
20 And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house,
21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

The early Church met in homes. The end times Church will return to homes, as is happening right now all over the world. The virgins without oil in their lamps, the ones left behind at the Rapture of the Church, will be meeting in big beautiful pagan temples, like the freak at the left. Are YOU one of them?

Tell me, do you trust only in religious entities which are incorporated, organized, documented in the files of some government department, and listed in the Yellow Pages? If so, you are dead meat for a Satanic attack. The vultures are gathering to the carcass, YOUR carcass, for a feast.

This man will certainly show you how to get comfortable while devils feast on your mind and soul. Why, how could anyone be dangerous who shows so many teeth when he smiles?

Hell is hot, Honey.





"CUMULUS LAPIDUM" is Latin for Stone Pile

"Do we still believe the local church is the hope of the world?" Bill Hybels

You see, many Christians might look at that question and not realize they'e been subjected to a dialectic question designed to alter their spiritual priorities and get them onboard an alternative agenda. This is what trained facilitators do under the radar in many churches today.

But I would ask: Is that where your hope lies-- in the local church? Do you believe your church can save the world?

Did it save you?

There are a lot of misguided Christians today who have a misplaced faith and hope in their church. This makes them easy targets for church growth consultants who know all too well how to play on the egos, ambitions and insecurities of both laymen and staff wanting their church to be bigger and better than the one across town.

But the Church cannot save. The Church is the saved.
Paul Proctor


This section of the journal consists of examples to man's clever and perverse way of raising monuments to himself in the form of piles of stone.

These piles he then calls "church."





The Anabaptists of the days of Menno Simons, who were attacked on two fronts-- by the Roman Whore and by the Reformers, took an oath of dedication. In this oath, they vowed,

"in kam steinhaufen mer ze geen."--
Never to enter a house of stone.

It is a landmark of Ladicean peril that about 95% of all Baptist pastors CRAVE a house of stone.

It is the end of the age for sure, for the Lord's Church is right back where it started-- In the homes of the people.

Meanwhile; "Step right up to the altar and give the deacon your faith promise brother.

We want to build a stone pile next year with a 200 foot platform and a $3,000,000 chandelier. Praise God, are we not the greatest?"


Each of these links is to show the pile of stone. Try not to
get lost in each site-- Keep moving to get the point.
Dead links rescued courtesy of The Wayback Machine.





Piled Higher and Deeper


"....a world class building" they tell us in their propaganda.....


RIGHT-- Very worldly! But, they are the greatest.
Queen Elizabeth, eat your heart out.

I have been told the 30 foot chandelier in the atrium cost $3 million.

Of course, all of this is in honor of the lowly Carpenter of Nazareth, of whom it was said.....

Matthew 8:20 And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.

Isaiah 5:8 Woe unto them that join house to house, that lay field to field, till there be no place, that they may be placed alone in the midst of the earth!

Much of this landmark facility was originally a monument to the living. It is a wicked thing that so many Baptists allow men around them to memorialize them before they die, as Jack Hyles did to himself. What is even more grievous is to see a woman enshrined (Beka Horton) before she passes on into the Glory (IF that is her destiny). This raises said woman above the men who exalt her, which violates the Apostle Paul's teaching. We are reminded of Mother Teresa and the Hindu Yoginis.

The 30 foot chandelier cost them 3 million dollars. When we left Kenya in 1976, a bush church could be built for $2500. So, with inflation, we must figure the same bush church would now cost $5000. So, if they had deferred the cost of the chandelier they would have been able to build 600 churches in Africa. Never mind, the chandelier must make the hosts of heaven stand in awe and shout........................ er....................... "STINK !!"

You folks at PCC, look up at that deco rubbish next time you enter the temple of Mulloch, and meditate........
600 local church houses in Kenya that never happened!

And, after the Rapture of the Church. This building will be a great Florida headquarters for Antichrist's man in the USA. Or, it will be a high end whore house with dollies standing on all the stairs instead of gullible children. You saints at PCC have built your buildings for Satan to use very shortly. May God send you a 300 mile per hour hurricane, or an 8 point earthquake.

May I say this-- PCC's Crown Center looks like an outhouse compared to the mansion in heaven which Jesus is preparing for me. Thus, I will just be content with our little church fellowship here in Texas.

It is urgent to understand what these monolithic stone piles do..... As the Vatican presents a massive and pontifical front behind which pedophiles and sodomites hide and play.... Even so, this Crown Center is a glittering and mind numbing front behind which the leaders may indulge in virtually any vice and appetite without being examined. Asking questions of Protestant Poplettes is tantamount to blasphemy. It will soon be a landmark year in Pensacola, for wicked Baptists, as the rats run and the truth comes forth.

From a carpenter I know very well, the following...

Luke 12:15 And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.

Update: Summer of 2003: Bible believers run for cover.
We are told that "Dell Johnson, Dean of the Seminary at PCC, left at the end of the semester, and three others went with him. The seminary has lost half the staff it had at the beginning of the semester. There is the possibility that one or two more might still leave. As it is, they only have ONE earned doctor of theology still on staff. At least three of the pastors of the Campus Church are going. Jim Schettler, the main pastor, and the face of the Rejoice Broadcast Network, is also strongly rumored to be leaving." A war over doctrine is rumored to be brewing, and the Popess is prevailing.

Well, I think they have an abundance of PhDs-- Pile Higher and Deeper.

Why are we featuring PCC?
Answer: Virtually no Fundamental Baptist organization has ever surpassed the grandiose and gaudy abuse of the giving of God's people like this group. The whole thing smells of Post-Millennial notions that the Lord's Church is to build a physical kingdom on earth. The vision of these piles of stone obliterate the simple Christlike and Pauline model of the local church presented in the book of Acts and over the past 1700 years, and model is still found in a thousand little places back up country roads in Kansas, Kenya, and Katmandu. This grand display in Pensacola is wicked in the extreme, for it sidelines the giving resources of God's people into monuments and away from soul winning and church planting.

Revelation 18:9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,
10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.
11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:

James 4:9 Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness.
10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.






You can get swallowed up in a hurry by the stone

The biggest Stone Pile, Cumulus Lapidum, in the world. --
Another site
-- French

More "Southern Gospsl" Stride in the Hovie Lister style,
but 40 years before his day.


What a mighty pile

What a modern church-- What a deco Pile
This one escaped :-)

Red brick pile

See who REALLY builds the Stone Pile Church!

Piling it high in Korea

Our alleged lady piles it pretty high
Another one escaped. They move to avoid us-- Strange :-)

Piled stone as a phallic symbol-- How many even know this?

Pile for water saved bunch

This is about the ultimate of the power and glory

A pile in the midst of death

 Join right in, and sing the old Gregorian Chant with Papa--
Stride "Gospel" again


And, a good sport

Who would not be spiritual in such a glamorous
palace of grandeur?
Entrance into the Bascilica

Platform of the temple

The power and the glory, yes, but whose?
We have a report that a memorial to "great preachers"
is planned, and Jack Hyles, Hindu vegetarian, Rick Warren, Joel Osteen, and other men who crave glory, will be included. Why do Fundamental Baptists lust for, and pass around, the glory instead of giving it to Jesus? Let us hear no more lies about Crown being KJV Only! http://www.templebaptistchurch.com/





"Gospel Song"-- "...a little prayer wheel's turning..." A la Buddha !!!!
Little fires burning, and little prayer wheels turning, are not New Testament notions.
They are 100% Buddhist. The Dalai Lama could sing this one with zeal.

Inside the deadest church on earth

The biggest in the world
Lost it-- It is in Africa-- Can anyone find it on the Web? SEND MAIL

Spirit of the stone pile




Nature of the Church
Cumulus Lapidum (Stone Pile) Comments

New Testament
Apostle's Doctrine

"Mother Church" The Whore
Constantine, Augustine, Popes

Protestant Reformation
Luther, Calvin, Zwingli

Menno Simons, Roger Williams

Who is the church?

What is the true church?

Where is the true church?

Again, Who is the true church?

Pilgrimage images:

- The Way
- Sojourners
- The poor

New Order images:

- Reign of God
- New creation
- New humanity

Peoplehood images:

- People of God
- Family and home
based physical facility ONLY

- Holy nation
- Flock
- Royal priesthood of all followers of Christ

Transformation images:

� Salt, light, city
� Spiritual house
� Gospel preaching by all followers


Song of the Church


The cathedral, or stone pile, is
the heart of the church.
Every image, brick, and icon
is sacred, while the average
follower is incidental and only
invited to mumble a handful of
words on cue. Bells and
chanting are the guide to
response, not the heart of
the follower under the leading
of the Holy Spirit.

The Church is a Mother,
NOT a body of believers.

Thus, Mother Church is holy,
so the follower can live like the
devil. Sin is NEVER mastered.
There is no need for anything
like zeal to be found in the heart
of the follower.
Just hit the kneelers on cue.

The hierarchy rules
every aspect of the
follower's life.

Nothing is certain, and the
follower is a full participant
in saving his own soul
since Jesus could not finish
the work on the Cross. This
also results in full treasuries,
for the follower must buy off
God by filling the hands of the
Pope and his priests with cash.

The higher up the
hierarchy, the more
powerful and immune
the minister is from
examination. Thus, Mother is
very hard on little boys
and virgin

The Word is preached while tradition was still very much
present, though not as final. The
sacraments are administered with
less superstition.

Houses of stone are not the church
per se, but the body of Christ dare
not meet in smaller places for fear
of falling into private religion,
which is cursed and denies holy
cow universality. True worship can
only be achieved by an "Order of
Worship" in the rear of the hymn
book. Only the bells are missing.

The hierarchy is more based in
zeal than in "Mother."

Separation from sin has never
been very important. God is stuck
with us, according to Calvin and

Church discipline is enforced by
the sword of the burgermeister
(1500) and the church fathers and
consistory (now).

Zero tolerance for those who
descent or refuse to live by the
creed. Scholarship is the measure
of all things.

Salvation is not a choice --
It is inherited and administered as
a rite of passage.

Thus, holy living is optional. Cigars
and whiskey are often on the
church budget. "Given to
hospitality" means a good variety
of booze on a shelf out of reach of
the children.

This was vastly a great
improvement over the Whore of
Rome, but the Reformers never
finished the job in 500 years and
never will. True reformation does
NOT include revival of the

Peter Riedeman:


The church is a lantern of righteousness in which the
light of grace is held before
the world, that people may
also learn to see and know
the way of life.

The Church meets in homes. weaver's caves, and barns,
and vows never to enter a
"stone house." Worship is a
product of the heart, and not reaching the goal of true
worship will result in a week
of "revival meetings."

Those who are truly regenerate
will leave their sin, and when
they backslide, they are
disciplined briskly in love.

Menno Simons,
True Signs of the Church:

1. Pure doctrine from God's Word alone.

2. Scriptural and symbolic use of only two ordinances of baptism and the Lord's Supper.

3. Obedience to the Word by acts of change in daily life.

4. Unfeigned brotherly love while allowing the unconverted to reject the Gospel without retaliation by the saints.

5. Bold confession of God in Christ in public.

6. Oppression and tribulation are accepted for the sake of the Word and the Gospel.

7. Separation of the true Body of Christ from Caesar's authority and participation.



Now, here in closing.... is a real church--

Are they in a Cumulus Lapidum (pile of stone)?
You better believe it.

Are they the real Church?
Yes, at least a small part of it.

Do we like the pastor?
Not too much at times.

Do we like the setting?

Do we want to pastor this church?
Not if the Lord doesn't tell us to.

BUT, Do we rejoice in the Lord's Church here?
Absolutely, my friend, and in every small gathering of the saints in any home, prison,
break room, and cafe where two or three gather together in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ.

You see, the modern Cumulus Lapidum has people in it who are born again Bible believers.
Sadly, they thing that the circus atmosphere is exactly what the Apostle Paul did in Ephesus.
So, we do not curse the sheep who have gone astray, but we call them out to BE the Church.



Here is proof you can have a site built church
without a pile of stone

No pile of stone here

Baptist House Church Down Under

A bit Arminian, But no Stone Pile!

Small House Church Music

Maudy is over in the corner telling little Bobby how they used to sing to the old pump organ when they had Sunday meetings at the Van County School House in Oklahoma. Brother Fred is checking his notes for the Bible lesson later. Mary and Monica are in the kitchen getting the coffee maker ready to turn on as soon as the message is over. Last Sunday they turned it on too soon and drove everyone crazy with the aroma. Jack says he actually made something for the church dinner later, and everyone is amazed the old bachelor even tried.

We better eat a little so as not to hurt his feelings. Brother Miller made one of his famous Chocolate cakes with mayonnaise in it. Later, we will be going home with the Hendrys to watch a video of the Marshall family singing. Brother Bill just put another log on the fire. It has been three months now since we escaped from the stone pile church we were going to, and we feel so much at home-- Just like the Apostle Paul said we would.

Acts 20:18 And when they were come to him, he said unto them, Ye know,
from the first day that I came into Asia, after what manner I have been with you at all seasons,
19 Serving the Lord with all humility of mind, and with many tears, and temptations,
which befell me by the lying in wait of the Jews:
20 And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you,
and have taught you publickly, and from house to house,



How does the world see the mega church?
Check out the video at the right.
They would never make mockery
of a house church.....
They wouldn't even know they existed >>>>>


Are you trapped in a Cumulus Lapidum--
A Stone Pile?

Why not find an exit, and head for a local
house church in your area?

Better yet,
START a House Church Youself as the Lord may so lead.

Acts 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

Acts 5:42 And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ.

Acts 16:32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.

Philemon 1:2 And to our beloved Apphia, and Archippus our fellowsoldier, and to the church in thy house:

Romans 16:5 Likewise greet the church that is in their house. Salute my wellbeloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto Christ.

1 Corinthians 16:19 The churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house.

Colossians 4:15 Salute the brethren which are in Laodicea, and Nymphas, and the church which is in his house.

For almost 1700 years the true local church met in homes. Even the Reformers failed to leave the Stone Piles. Let us return to the homes of the believers where the Holy Ghost started the Lord's Church long ago.

Last song--
Appalachian Regular Baptist
old time Gospel song--

"Jesus Came to Me"
Deacons in the corner thumping time with their boots, song leader totally distracted and singing his head off, piano hasn't been tuned in ten years, there is no distracting tongues speaking going on, coal oil fumes in the air from the Aladdin lamps, sister Jenkins is mostly deaf, but little Billy sings real loud right there next to her, and she loves it,the old school house is warm and ringing with the songs of Zion, kids singing like they won't ever get to sing again in their life, and the Holy Ghost is very much at home here....

I was there-- 1949-- Briartown, Oklahoma.

Also, Quartz Hill Community church-- 1953.
Brother Miller jumped the altar rail and hit half way down the aisle shouting GLORY as Tony Pellerin went forward to get saved.

I was there-- Circa 1957-- My Dad visited a bush church in a mud church. For my Dad's visit they put fresh cow dung plaster on the church, inside and out, even the floor. It looked very neat and presentable, smelt like down on the farm, and when we had the Lord's Supper at the end, I never felt the presence of the Lord any more than that Sunday morning.

Kipkaren, Kenya-- mud walled church with a grass roof. Sang for a solid hour before the sermon.

Yermo, California-- Clap board hotel which was a railroad red light house that was moved across the tracks to become a church-- 1929--

I was there in 1979-- The founding pastor was there to do his chalk art sermons again.

I was also in Westminster Abby once on a Sunday morning--
It smelled like a morgue and felt like it too.
I was a teen ager, and I thought it was cool to stand on David Livingston's grave in church.
Along the walls were ancient knights' in armor standing there ready to massacre us.
CREEPY-- The singing disappeared into the ceiling.
It was cold!
Dark !
Dull !

Give me that Briartown, Oklahoma church meeting in the school house any day over that Pile of Stone.





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