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This is very new and it is violently dangerous. It carries the marks of the Roman Catholic Opus Dei cult, Promise Keepers, Freemasonry, and Charismania. Methods of all the above are melded into one powerful church destroying cult.
Also, I need to hear from a Tres Dias leader who has defected. I want to know who is above all of this thing in terms of Principalities and Powers.
I do NOT believe it is some devotional Catholic priest and his feely feely Methodist friends. There has to be layer of power above all this.
Please step forward. I will NOT burn you by exposing you as my source.
By Todd Starnes
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (BP)--When several members of a Georgia Baptist church were invited to attend a weekend of spiritual renewal, their pastor, Paul Mason, didn't give it a second thought. After all, "Tres dias" (Spanish for three days) sounded like it was a normal, weekend getaway sponsored by a mainline religious denomination.
But a few months after they returned from the retreat, Mason realized he had a problem on his hands at Central Baptist Church, Douglasville. "When I asked them how the retreat went, they told me it was a secret. They couldn't talk about what happened during the weekend," he said.
Mason noticed that couples who had attended the Tres dias retreat were secretly inviting other couples to attend the program. After the church's Sunday school superintendent went to the retreat, he abruptly resigned his church position without reason. And within six months, Mason said the couples who had initially attended Tres dias completely ostracized themselves from the congregation. The result, Mason said, was a divided church.
Determined to learn all he could about Tres dias, Mason uncovered some unsettling information about a spiritual movement that is raising concern in the Southern Baptist Convention. Tres dias is one of three major spiritual renewal movements that emerged from the Cursillo Movement.
Cursillo is a three-day learning, sharing experience of living in a Christian community or a short course in Christianity. The Cursillo Movement originated in the Roman Catholic Church. However, many of the current Cursillo Movements are run by Protestant denominations. The Three major movements in this country are Tres dias, a charismatic movement with ties to the United Methodist Church; "The Emmaus Walk," sponsored by the UMC; and the Lutheran-affiliated "Via De Cristo."
The weekend retreats aren't just aimed at adults. Many Southern Baptist teenagers have attended the UMC's youth Cursillo called, "Chrysalis" and that has caused the North American Mission Board to sound a word of caution.
"If Southern Baptist teenagers want a deeper relationship with Christ, a three-day weekend is just a quick fix. These retreats often create more problems for a church than they resolve," said Tal Davis of NAMB's interfaith witness team.
Mason agreed. "The Emmaus Walk and Chrysalis were adopted and adapted to fit the Methodist denomination and it works well for them. I make my strongest appeal that Baptist teenagers should receive their spiritual training through Southern Baptist organizations," he said.
Davis said a number of Southern Baptist churches have contacted his office with stories of problems resulting from the retreats. "It's very strange. Some church members have done extreme things, selling possessions, becoming secretive. It's almost like the weekend retreat has become the focus of their spiritual lives." George Osment, a lay leader at First Baptist Church, Scottsboro, Tenn., said the spiritual intensity is so great that leaders of one Tres dias retreat refused to allow a camper to leave. "This person wanted to go home but they wouldn't let him. He saw what was going on and wanted to leave," Osment said. "They formed a circle around him and prayed over him."
Osment said the secrecy surrounding the retreat has caused division in their congregation. "It's very sad," he said. Said Davis: "Anything that involves a measure of secrecy sends up a red flag. There's no need for anybody in a Christian church to keep anything secret. Everything should be out in the open." Davis said the Cursillo movement is intent on getting as many people out of the church to attend as possible. "There is an elitist mind-set and that can become divisive. It's a problem," he said.
And while Davis stressed that he doesn't believe the Cursillo movement intentionally tries to undermine the local church pastor, he warned that even some pastors have been blinded by the retreats. "Their focus is no longer on the gospel or evangelism, rather the experiences they've had."
Mason noted that the Cursillo movement does good work. "However," he said, "There are points at which Cursillo and Southern Baptists clash. Let me stress that before any member of a Southern Baptist church goes to a Cursillo, the pastor needs to go first."
One area of concern, Mason said, is the potential for participants to manifest charismatic tendencies. All participants are recruited by those already in the movement, and thus it does not appear to be open to everyone, he said.
Jean Johnson Green, the international assistant director for the Walk to Emmaus, said that while the retreat may have some problems, the intentions are pure. "Our purpose and vision is to create Christian pilgrims who can go back and strengthen local congregations," she said. People attending the retreats are called pilgrims and the retreat locations are called communities. The Walk to Emmaus was created in 1977 as the Upper Room Cursillo. It was licensed with the Roman Catholic Cursillo. In 1982, the United Methodists broke from the Catholics and created a retreat that would steer away from Catholic theology, Green said.
Tres dias was actually a Methodist Cursillo that broke off in the 1980s. And while it is a separate Cursillo, the structure is similar to the Walk to Emmaus.
Green admitted there have been some problems with the retreats -- specifically the veil of secrecy. "We are doing everything we can to change that policy," Green said. "The secrecy is part of the tradition of the Cursillo.
"I suppose people were more trusting back in the early days of the retreats," she said. "We have moved into the ages of the cults and it [the secrecy] has become problematic for us." Green stressed there isn't anyone keeping the participants from revealing what happened on the retreat.
As for the accusations of forcibly keeping participants from leaving, Green said it is not a widespread problem. "Yes, there have been those instances, but I want to stress there are very few. Our motive is if we can just keep them at the retreat, they will be changed," she said. "Again, this is another tradition that needs to be changed. It was a bad decision on the part of the local Cursillo leadership."
Davis said it's important for churches to be alert. "The other side of this is that our churches need to be aware and concerned about the spiritual training of the membership," he said. Out of 78,000 pilgrims attending 370 Emmaus Walk and Chrysalis retreats annually, Green said only one person has left the weekend retreat.
Green said she was also aware of local church concerns. "We stress to our pilgrims that we aren't better than anyone else. The world is still the same. Our hearts are different. We encourage the pilgrims to go back to their congregations lovingly," she said. "There are some people, who are baptized by the Holy Spirit, who think they are on a higher plane. When we find out about this, we immediately contact the community leaders and tell the pilgrim this is inappropriate behavior," she added.
As for Southern Baptists, Davis said the best method of spiritual renewal is through discipleship. "We have some wonderful materials, from 'Experiencing God' to 'MasterLife,'" Davis said. "A balanced approach to spiritual growth involves discipleship over a period of time, using sound, biblical principles and materials."
1. The Methodists are becoming militant. Knowing their zeal for Freemasonry and sodomy, we thus know what potential this holds for your youth group. I never imagined the Methodists would ever rise up and do anything other than get drunk and play bingo.
2. The Roman Whore is targeting Southern Baptists. This is because the Southern Baptists are now about to split, and they are weak and vulnerable due to sin and Freemasonry undermining their spiritual walk. The old beast of prey method of the Pentecostals of the 1950s and 60s method is now being dusted off and reused. This gang is preying on the big denominations who are having troubles.
3. This is way beyond Promise Keepers in potential for evil. Promise Keepers was secret in some respects, but all men were welcome to attend. Any pastor who wondered what PK was up to could attend anonymously. Tres dias is "by invitation only." This is a Wiccan, Witchcraft, Freemason trick. The secret is also 100% a guruistic thing, and the retreat is ashramic in character.
4. There is more to this than we now know. I promise you that. Stand by-- God will show us soon.
A reader reports in:
following is from a reader of the Journal, and I was startled at how the above
article hit so close to home for him. This gives me cause to conclude that
this movement is very powerful and must be dealt with as a devilish intrusion
into the Lord's Church:
In regards to your piece about Crusillo:
Back in 1993, in my "ecumenical" days, I joined an episcopalian friend of mine to a "Vocare" retreat weekend in Southern CA, which is a college-age version of Crusillo. As per your feature on the subject, it was an emotionally intense, experience oriented tear-shedding event. At the time, I was always enticed by anything that smacked of "renewal" or "rekindling" of the "spiritual experience," although we new participants weren't told what was going to happen to us at the event. It was supposed to be a "really neat surprise," and we were supposed to be completely vulnerable to whatever "great things" took place. The retreat had many new-age, self-introspective overtones.
We were treated lavishly by the previous participants who served as leaders and facilitators. These people had spent weeks preparing for the event, with decorations (lots of candles everywhere), activities, etc. They served us our food, cleaned up after us, gave us hand-painted, personalized coffee mugs saying what "wonderful people we were," and we did lots of feely "worship" singing, discussions, foot washing, etc. At the time I saw it as "edifying." There was also a series of follow-up "reunions" and a newsletter mailed to me over the next year. I didn't go to any of the reunions.
The secrecy aspect of it was minimal, but we were encouraged not to tell anyone about details of the event so that we wouldn't ruin the surprise effect of it for new participants, which they called "candidates." We were also considered part of a "special" group, as if we had graduated into something no one else had. Looking back on it now, I see how wrong it was in every aspect. Your article brought it all back to me.
Retreats like this are a great way to deceive well-intended but nominal Christians with the lies of the devil from within the church mainstream. This is because they are under the program's influence 24 hours a day for a weekend, plus the intense follow-up and elite-style status it gives. We were not permitted to leave the facility or wear our watches during the event, supposedly so that we would not worry about keeping track of time or the outside world while we were there.
It's another lie for Bible Believers to flee from as we trust in God for our protection. Amen!
HERE IS A CLEAR INFILTRATION BASE FOR THE WHORE OF ROME:
Note how you take it home with you.
"CONCORDIA" HERE IS A LUTHERAN INFILTRATION BY THE WHORE:
CHECK OUT THE "VOCARE" SITE MENTIONED BY THE READER ABOVE:
I need an infiltrator in the Michigan area to look in on these people.
EPISCOPAL LAMBS FOLLOW CLOSE OF COURSE:
TORONTO CURSILLO SPOOK SHOW:
http://www.cursillotoronto.com/coolimg.html Next, they will be selling tortillas with the face of Jesus in them.
PRESBYTERIANS TAKE THE DIVE:
UK ANGLICAN CONNECTION:
THIS ONE dias IT ALL TO EMMAUS!!!:
LOOK WHO RULES SUPREME:
http://www.rc.net/lafayette-l/cursillo/ Note their effort to abscond with the word "fundamental"!
READ THE PURPOSE OF THE MAILING LIST-- See who is included:
BIG ENOUGH TO MOVE CASH TO BALAAM:
Note their mascot:
Their booklist shows Protestant heritage grabbing:
SOUTHERN BAPTIST AND PROMISE KEEPERS CONNECTION:
HICK TOWN AND METHODIST NOTIONS: