Searching for the Truth in the King James Bible;
Finding it, and passing it on to you.

EDITOR:Steve Van Nattan






Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions
and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly;
and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

There are Independent Fundamental preachers, numbering in the thousands, who have a great Doctrinal Statement, they have been to Fundamental colleges, and they come highly praised by other preachers, but they have the wrong fruit. They may well be DAMNED TO HELL. They are not born again, and your preacher may be one of them. Is this your preacher?

Luke 6:44 For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.
45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.
46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

I love figs. I have eaten them since I was a little kid in California. I have eaten figs in Eritrea. I have grown figs in Arizona. I now have a fig tree starting its career here in Texas. I know where to find figs, friend. On a fig tree. I have also had a lot of experience with thorn trees and thistles. That includes in the California desert, in Kenya and Tanzania, in Arizona, and in Texas. To this date, I have yet to pick a fig off of a thorn tree. Nor do I expect to.

Luke 6:44 For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.

You are now going to read a list of thorns. There are no figs in the list below. If you go to find good fruit at the church house, and all you get is thorns, then you KNOW that your preacher is a godless hireling and probably unsaved. You either need to run him off, or you need to get out of there and find a real Christian fig tree.


Here are a few marks of an unsaved preacher:

-- They steal other men's wives and laugh in the face of those women's husbands
when they complain-- even offering a wife swap. "It is all under the Blood of Jesus friend."

-- They defend fellow slow bellied pastors whom they know very well are sex perverts,
even sodomites. "That brother pastor has been used of God in spite of his weaknesses."

--They steal their neighbor's trees and tools and take them to their property. They borrow books from other pastors and never return them.

-- They steal sheep from other churches rather than win souls. They are clearly too lazy to win souls between Sundays. Their altar call is the only place anyone catches them allegedly winning souls.

-- These Satanic preachers give altar calls in which born again people are coerced into doubting their salvation so they have to go to the altar over and over to feel they are still saved. "If you have any doubt at all, you need to get down here to the altar and settle it with God." These preachers have NO power to win souls in the street because they have NO presence of God in them.

-- These Balaam bishops steal from the offering plate, sometimes while their leaders are watching. "I have to take the guest speaker to lunch."

-- They are never satisfied with the giving of the people. As soon as the giving is staying up with the budget, these Balaams demand more giving for some project or a new church house.

-- They will not visit the saints at home, and their own homes are not open to the saints. They go on visitation only to get the numbers up, but they do not visit the local cafes to visit with publicans and sinners, as Jesus did.

-- They do not run to auctions, rodeos, or go fishing with the men in their church. They feel they must stay aloof from the sheep. This is often because they have something to hide, or because worldly people in the market place may confront them regarding sexual sins they commit.

-- They run to every preacher's convention in twenty states, but they don't have time to visit the sick and shut in.

-- When someone brings up a Bible text or issue in casual conversation, like at church dinners, these slobs can barely participate. The pulpit is where they deal with the Word of God. In casual conversation they prefer hunting, fishing, or football stories.

-- They arrange for young women to be "protected" in the home of sex pervert leaders in their church.

-- They beat little kids, and paddle girls with their hand, in the local church school.

-- They tell kids to disobey their parents in order to get the kid into church. Later, they may use the kid sexually after bringing the kid into bondage to their personality. I mean both boys AND girls.

-- Their airplane crashes, and the only passengers on board were two young ladies.

-- They claim that Paul and Peter were Baptists, "They just didn't know it." By this filthy logic, Jesus was a Baptist and just didn't know it.

-- They say, in the words of one of their rowdy mouthed evangelists, "The only one standing between you and Hell is your pastor." In this, they show that they are blasphemers, for they are promoting themselves into the place of Jesus Christ, who is the "one God and one mediator between God and man." And, only Jesus can stand between you and Hell.

-- They say, "Follow me, and I will follow Jesus." This is straight out of the Vatican and is the doctrine of Papal authority. The one who said, "Follow me...." is The Lord Jesus Christ. The one who seeks to exalt himself into the place of Jesus Christ is antichrist.

-- They send out dangerous and uninsured church busses to pick up kids for Sunday School.

-- They have high dress standards, while their wives dress in skin tight red silk dresses, have slits in their skirts, and flutter their eye lashes at the men in the foyer.

-- Some of these alleged preachers wear pony tails (men).

-- They keep known criminals in their church membership because these thieves pay their house payment.

-- They lay on two hundred missionaries and give them all $ 10 a month, then they brag about their missions program at the convention. Most of the missionaries come and go once, and the preacher could not care less if the missionary even makes it to the field.

-- They beat their own kids, their own wives, and beat Hispanic kids until nearly dead.

-- They take young teen age girls over state lines and use them sexually, while telling these girls they will marry them some day.

-- They claim to be missionaries to Mexico while they never stepped inside Mexico, and live in North Carolina on substantial missionary support from Bible believing churches. Their mail to their alleged home in Mexico is forwarded to them by a Mexican living in Mexico.

-- They have a full set of various Bible sin the trunk so they can use "ONLY" the one the preacher of the church they visit uses.

-- They demand that the church that calls them put the church real estate in their name alone. When they leave, they get a couple milque toast alleged "deacons" to approve their selling the church real estate to the highest bidder to pay the pastor's "severance pay."

-- On social media online they use vicious hate rants against anyone who disagrees with them, while in person to person conversation they are wimps.

-- They use illegal drugs.

-- They use alcohol and tobacco, and visit bars to "counsel" alone with certain fallen ladies. When they are caught, they pass it off with, "I should have taken a deacon along, I realize that now." They do it again though.

-- They lie big about how many souls they lead to Christ, and they have a handful of fools who lie for them, telling people how many souls the preacher leads to Christ.

-- They call the sheep to the altar and accuse the sheep that if they do not come to the altar, they are not saved. Meanwhile; these preaching pigs are NEVER seen at that altar repenting of anything, nor are their wives.

-- They "Church" (excommunicate) anyone who tries to reason with them, and they accuse them of not being saved, or of teaching false doctrine. In fact, these prating fool preachers are not saved themselves.

-- These Balaams claim that a person can get saved while reading the New International Version, though the NIV has 170 pages of Truth removed and is damned by Revelation 22:19. One evangelist claims that he was saved reading the NIV. I do not believe he is saved, and those who promote his heresy may go to hell with him. No truly born again pastor would EVER give credibility to the NIV, NASB, or any other soul damning counterfeit bible.

Many many Independent Fundamental preachers are overweight, many are literal buffoons, some teach herb and veggie doctrines, some play with the Militia, the Klan, Chuck Norris, Tax Rebellion, yannis and greys, and in general, any screwy thing they can lay their hands on-- anything but serving the saints, feeding sheep, and STUDY the Word of God.

The average Fundamental church preacher is a lazy slow belly who will NOT teach because he will not study. We were in attendance when one preacher was in the pulpit ready to start the service, and someone walked in the back door. The preacher immediately walked to his office and grabbed another set of sermon notes from the file cabinet and abandoned the book study he was doing. The vast majority of preachers dive into their sermon barrel, file of sermons, for something they did ten years ago, or worse, something they stole from some other famous preacher.



If you have one, run him off at once. He does not need to repent, he needs to be turned over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh. This sort of cheap scum will indeed repent, but only to save his acre and his seat of power. False repentance is far more deadly than open rage and hate. These slow bellies are NEVER sincere in repentance. They have devils ruling them and their home, and ALL of their acts of religious affect are just that-- fake. These men are beyond hope, there is no way to reclaim them. They were fakes from day one, and it is in their blood and soul to deceive for the pay check. Show NO mercy on them.

Ephesians 4:17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,
18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
19 Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.

Titus 1:10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:
11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.
12 One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.
13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

If you rebuke a truly born again man, he will receive it, and he will consider your words. If you rebuke an unsaved fake preacher, he will thrash you at once. You know him by this response. If you have the authority, run him off at once.

Perhaps you have watched a Fundamental preacher, usually over 350 lbs fat, posture and pose as people around him listen to how wonderful he is. He is so cool, and he knows it. His words flow out in a sort of casual compelling manner that enthralls the weak minded. A sort of Henry Kissinger of the preacher's club. If you even LOOK bored with him, he will catch it and shunt you to the rear of the party. You need to slam him loud and before the sheep publicly. Rebuke him for not shutting his big flap trap and sitting still once in a while. Ask him if he ever learns anything by LISTENING. Ask him to describe how his personality is like that of The Lord Jesus Christ. Chapter and verse please.

You will be cast out of the synagogue of course, but you should not go quietly when you leave a hireling pastor. The sheep around him need to see him for what he really is.

Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

And, this is the strange thing folks-- These slow bellies are taken in over and over by churches who think they are great pastors. Somehow, there are local churches which LOVE these wicked sinners.

Let me make something very clear. Most of the great men you read about in the Sword of the Lord and other church rags crave or accept the adulation of one another. They write up a man, long before his death, as a walking wonder. Why? Answer: The famous Amos built huge Sunday Schools, or he allegedly won thousands of souls to Christ. When your pastor exalts men at a distance, whether Lee Roberson, Peter Ruckman, Jack Hyles, or any other man, he is exalting man instead of Jesus Christ. A truly great man does NOT care for this, and the men who clearly love the adulation, like Lee Roberson, are hirelings. The local church is as high a place as the Holy Ghost wishes to do his work. You and your pastor are all the help he needs if you are surrendered to serve him.

Rebuke you pastor sharply when he exalts other men, even men visiting to speak in your church. If you pastor introduces such visiting evangelists or missionaries with boastings of their works, you are in order to stand and ask the pastor to stop it and let the man speak. An introduction should INTRODUCE, not exalt. Jesus Christ is the ONLY one who should be exalted in your gatherings.

Frankly, the modern idea of an evangelist is far from the New Testament evangelist. As a pastor, I never brought in evangelists. They teach false doctrine, they play tricks at the altar call, they are free loaders and often have big bellies, and they don't stay long enough to accomplish anything. They are almost always men who tried to pastor and could not cut the mustard, so they hit the road and live off the offering plate of many churches. I have heard many stories of evangelists who were into porn and were unfaithful to their wives. One evangelist in California would visit bars at a distance when the meetings were over. Get your eyes on Jesus and the ordinary hicks he has given you in your local church. Jesus was very comfortable plodding along the paths of Galilee with fishermen and common men.

All of the above applies to your local church's missionaries also. They must NOT have diplomatic immunity from examination. Do you KNOW they are doing anything on the field? Have you ever done a check with other missionaries on their field to see if they are even there, let alone witnessing for Christ? I have to conclude, from observation, and from my own days in missions, that about 95% of all local churches and pastors do not have any idea what their missionaries are like and what they are doing. They just believe the furlough reports. These are almost ALWAYS exaggerated, and are often bold faced fabrications of success and victory.



If you have identified such a hireling unsaved pastor in your own local church, and if you have two other witnesses, leading men living orderly, who have SEEN and HEARD the same things you have, YOU MUST CONFRONT THIS WICKED PASTOR. If he defends ANY or his wickedness, or if he lashes out at you, or if he tries to cast you out of the synagogue, RUN HIM OFF. Do this suddenly, and do it physically if necessary. Do NOT let him back into the church house once you have evicted him. Serve him notice to vacate the parsonage in the shortest time allowed using lawful force in writing.

I have seen the tricks these men play, and they have studied ways to rip off the local church as they leave. If he tries any tricks, use extreme forces, set his house contents on the curb, and change all the locks on the church house and the parsonage. You owe him nothing. He is a devil. He may be backed by Satanists, sodomites, or the Roman Catholic Church, such as Opus Dei. Never do anything without witnesses. Give him as little as possible in writing. Change all bank and checking accounts BEFORE you confront him so that he cannot empty the accounts.

If your pastor calls in some pastor from far away, the following applies:

1. That pastor may have been deceived by your pastor and truly think he is a good man. This is because these hirelings go to great lengths to do good works for high visibility pastors whom they use on their resumes. These Fundamentalist bishops stupidly defend and promote the schemes of men like your pastor.

2. If the other pastor, who is called in by your pastor, asks you to give him another chance, tell that other pastor that there will be NO second chance, and let him know directly that he is NOT welcome to intrude on your actions. Do NOT tell him the offences you have with your pastor. This information could be used in court against you.

3. Do not accept the help or intervention of ANY church association, college, great man, or missionary. I don't care if the guru, Lee Roberson himself, shows up wanting to help. Run the creep off. These preachers run a club in which they defend one another. This was the case for many years with one whore monger from Hammond, Indiana. Thousands of preachers defended him and assaulted the Lord's people who sought deliverance from the creep.

Lastly, this is war, and you dare not back off until you have run the hireling off.

The ONLY exception to the above is when your pastor comes to you FIRST, and he confesses sin in his manner of conduct as a pastor or in his personal life. If you believe he is in true repentance, then you must put him under church discipline, remove him from his duties as pastor for a time, and call in pulpit supply. If your pastor shows fruit unto repentance and righteousness, one day you must restore him to his ministry. But, he must follow YOUR schedule for restoration and submit to the leading men of your local church. Again, accept NO help from men outside of your assembly, for they will always pervert the thing out of sympathy for the fallen pastor.

If there is a memorial of sin, like a divorce, bastard child, or a jail record, you may still have to send the pastor away at the end of the restoration time. You cannot commend him to any other local church either, for the memorial is there and will not go away.

There is one more serious hazzard in dealing with hirelings. Let the Word define them:

Acts 13:49 And the word of the Lord was published throughout all the region.
50 But the Jews stirred up the devout and honourable women, and the chief men of the city, and raised persecution against Paul and Barnabas, and expelled them out of their coasts.

2 Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

The hireling pastor, once your put his feet to the fire, will start courting the women in your local church to come to his aid. He will target devout, honorable women. He will take up the role of Satan in the garden with Eve. He will offer these women power over the men, and over you. He will even work the wives of the deacons if he can find a way, often through his kids and the deacons' kids. If you see this happening, you will have to rebuke the women, using godly women who are not deceived, and "church" the first one who gets cheeky with you. There will be tears and pleadings, and you will have to stand firm and NOT give way to the emotional attacks of Satan.

After the eviction and excommunication of the pastor, you will have a troubled church. There is no way to avoid this. War is messy. You will need a time when the deacons will have to heal. Those who offended you, and who you feel should stay in the church, must be helped to get over it. This will take personal pastoring, and the deacons will have to do it. You ran off the enemy, but the aftermath is troubling. You are as wicked as that hireling pastor if you have no spirit of mercy and love for the wounded sheep. Many ugly things may come tumbling out after that pastor is run off. Anything, from sodomy and child molestation on down the scale of offenses may come out. You need to be much in prayer that God will strengthen you to help restore the fellowship of the saints to good health. Don't run looking for another new pastor to come in and clean up the mess. THAT IS YOUR JOB. If you need counsel from outside, go to a man who did not know your pastor, or a man who was hated by your pastor, IF your pastor hated him for the right reasons.

Finally, this is no time to leave the local church. If you went into this battle, and the church is now delivered of the hireling, you are obligated to stay for a good period of time to see restoration and to help the church find another pastor by and by.

Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

If God will cast Satan out of heaven, why should YOU not cast Satan's servant out of your local church?


Give a Wide Berth to the USS Brother Bull Horn

Two things have happened recently which call for an observation on another strange phenomenon happening in Fundamental church and Pentecostal circles.

A friend of ours, looking for a church to pastor, went to preach in a church in an area which will go un-named. Our friend has always been a zealous Bible teacher. Well, after he had preached, the men of the church told him they liked his teaching, but they wanted a man who was more forceful in the pulpit. By this they meant, hollering, yelling, and spitting all over the folks in the front row.

Another example of this came in last week in which a doctrinaire Atheist told how he came to be born again, got onto the narrow way, even learned the hard way about the textual issue and defense of the King James Bible. He visited some dead denominational churches and gave up on them. So, he went to seek out Fundamental churches since he had learned from reading several books that they were defenders of the KJV.

He found that every one of them was ego maniac about their church eritage, and he also learned that they spent a lot of time hollering and yelling like they were mad at someone. The Baptist Heritage thing grossed him out because he has always been a research oriented person, and he was already a student of church history as an Atheist. His further studies after salvation extended his knowledge, and when he was told that John the Baptist was the first Baptist, he nearly threw up. The other thing he could not understand was all the screaming and yelling and bawdy talk.

I will now tell you what is happening. Fundamental Jackboot preachers do NOT have a leg to stand on with regard to this Baptist Heritage thing. Real researched history, BY MEN FAVORABLE TO THE ANABAPTISTS, proves that the name Baptist, as applied to a movement, was not used until AFTER the Anabaptists were starting to be washed out by compromise and legalism. Thus, about 1650 at the earliest. Before the Anabaptist era there were NO Baptists. It takes a gullible fool to make a Waldensean, Abergensian, or a Donatist into a Baptist. If you can do that, can you also make lead into gold. It would take just as much alchemy, or devilment.

We need to also mention that Charismatic claim Rhema and Branham heritages, and the Brethren churches claim their heritage is superior. The heritage game is played by all associations and denominations. At this end of the Dispensation of Grace, it seems no one wants the heritage of Jesus Christ alone.

So, when you have a Mother Goose fairy tale history, and, may I add, when you won't study for your sermons and research your claims, you have to raise your voice. The Jackboot preacher is really trying to yell and scream loud enough so that you will be overwhelmed by the hubris and adrenal frenzy of the moment, and he hopes that your brain does not go into gear. It worked for Adolph Hitler and Fidel Castro, and it works with the average dumbed down saint in the pew. He submits to Mother Goose. Have you also kissed your brain bye bye, friend?

There is another factor compounding this problem. Many Fundamental preachers have learned, from attending preacher's conferences and rallies, that you can be the center of attention if you are loud and project a powerful force of presence. It works, in the foyer, at the noon meal dinner table, in the parking lot, and even downtown when you meet some other leader or Christian. Our family has gotten pretty good at identifying Fundamental Baptist and Pentecostal preachers in the market place. They spew, swagger, and roar around in their dumpy overstuffed suit, and they are the center of attention. If they only knew what the ungodly think of them!

Now, I want you to think of the USS Gospel Blimp or Pentecostal preacher you know like this. Next time you see him in action, ask yourself, "Can I superimpose Jesus Christ over this man right now?" Would Jesus, or Paul, be behaving like this in Caperneum or Nazareth. Was this the manner of Paul up on Mars Hill in Athens? In this matter, you cannot tell a particle of difference between a Fundamental Baptist and a Pentecostal Type AAA.

So, my dear friend, as you start your House Church, PLEASE shuck off this rowdy noisy approach to Christian zeal. Ask yourself often, "If Jesus came through the door of our House Church right now, would He put His hands over His ears, or even turn and walk right back out the door?"

Proverbs 17:1 Better is a dry morsel, and quietness therewith, than an house full of sacrifices with strife.

Eccl. 4:6 Better is an handful with quietness, than both the hands full with travail and vexation of spirit.

Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.

Eccl. 9:17 The words of wise men are heard in quiet more than the cry of him that ruleth among fools.

Isaiah 14:7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.

It is OK to sing with exaltation unto God. But noise and hollering is NOT part of biblical praise.

1 Thessalonians 4:10 And indeed ye do it toward all the brethren which are in all Macedonia: but we beseech you, brethren, that ye increase more and more;
11 And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;
12 That ye may walk honestly toward them that are without, and that ye may have lack of nothing.

So, in context, we see that increasing more and more does NOT mean getting louder and louder, and we also see that being a blessing to "them that are without" will NOT include screaming and spewing in their face.

1 Peter 3:1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.
3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:

One thing is worse than a USS Brother Bull Horn-- That is, a hollering and bawdy Bull Horn woman. This is the ultimate devilish side show and will drive off any thinking saint or sinner alike.




Comment: Steve Van Nattan-- I believe that the Lord Jesus Christ has sent strong delusion on these Fundamental Jackboot preachers, and thousands more in Pentecostal and other churches. We read that God sent a lying spirit to inspire the priests of Ahab to lie to him and exalt Ahab and his war strategies. I Kings 22 The lies of the priests became the motivating message that sent Ahab into battle and to his death. I believe that God has sent a lying spirit to each of these jackboot preachers to motivate them to fill the cup of God's wrath against them. The biggest lie is "pastoral rule" which supplants the place of Jesus Christ as head of his Church. I believe that just before the rapture of the Lord's Church, Christ is causing these hireling preachers to drive the true saints OUT of organized local churches.

When you see God fearing KJV only Bible believers outside the local church, whipped, and alone, and when you realize they have not been disruptive, consider what is before you my friend. These saints are not dumb clucks, but they have sat quietly and only spoken to the pastor if they wanted to establish some area of zeal or conviction which might differ with the status quo. When you see such saints languishing, you better stay clear away from the local church and pastor that excommunicated or drove off those saints. If you stand by and lend approval, even silent consent, to such a jackboot program, you are a devil just like the jackboot preacher.

If you have watched several good people be pushed steadily toward the door, or sensed that they were attacked by the preacher during altar calls and as sermon illustrations, you are a fool, possibly a damned fool, if you do not get out of that local church and find another way to walk with God and the saints. Damned fool? Too strong? Not if you are under complete submission to such a hireling preacher. That means your head is not Jesus Christ, and, regardless of what Bible you carry and what blather you speak, you are risking damnation for coming under the headship of man. Is it worth it?

So, here is how it works in Canada. You cannot find peace with God and His Word and, at the same time, find peace with the wicked jackboot egomaniacs. They serve Satan worldwide.

In Greetings in Christ's Name.

I just recently found your web site and have been blessed to see people of like mind. I know that there are many around, but they are so hard to find.

I am from Saskatchewan, Canada. I was saved about eighteen years ago in Winnipeg, Manitoba. I also have been seeing the same things in Independent Churches in Canada. The first churches I attended were Pentecostal, and the Lord opened my eyes to the errors there. I was put out because of my position on the Authorized King James Version, which I had learned was the only preserved Word of God in the English language, and because of my stance against the error of Romanism. From then on I home churched for a number of years with believers of like mind. I moved and found no fellowship, so we decided to attend an Independent Baptist in _____________, Saskatchewan where we are presently living.

The pastor wanted to be my priest, I don't intentionally look for trouble, but I had taught my children to not participate in the pagan celebration called Xmass. The pastor there could not accept my position, and I wasn't vocal about it, but I had discussed it with him that we wouldn't be part of any programs. He basically asked us to leave the church because I was teaching my children in opposition of what he was teaching.

After we left there we decided to try another Independent church, and there the pastor, just as the other one, also tried to take the place of Jesus Christ as head of the Church. I sat in a pew there for about three years. The only one who was used in the church was the pastor or one other person.

He was like many of the Independent churches as you have discussed on your web site. I have seen in these churches authority being abused and everyone afraid to question the pastor about doctrines being taught which were questionable. I had been led to never trust in men but only Christ. I had to leave. I could not be his pew warmer. I love many of the people who were in these churches. Now I am attempting to start a home church here. It's very difficult because so many have the "I have to be in a church building with a licensed pastor" mentality. But we are trusting the Lord for guidance and direction. I have a web site

Thanks for your web site. I have found it very encouraging.

So, again, who is YOUR head? Are you encouraged, not tolerated or belittled, as you examine the teachings and practices of the local church you attend?

Acts 17:10 And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.
11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
12 Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few.

There are preachers who exalt the Bereans of Acts, even naming their church after them. But, when those few sheep sitting in front of those preachers open the Word and ask questions, those preachers rush those folks to the door or thrash them in their sermons. Jackboots hate Bereans. Get used to it, saint-- we are at war with jackboots who thrash Bereans.



During the 1960s and 1970s, many Bible believing churches were taken over by "the rule of the people," which is what "Leodicean" means in Revelation 3. Churches threw pastors away in record numbers, and the stories of brutality were beyond belief. I knew of one pastor who was voted out after he went home Sunday evening, and Monday morning the Marshall and a couple of deacons were at the parsonage door giving him the minimum notice to get out of the parsonage.

Well, things have changed. A new meaner and leaner breed of preachers has evolved who are masters at whipping the flock of God lest they rise up against them. Now, we have preachers who are PART OF the Laodicean mess. Now, the people in the pew AND their pastor have a "rule of the people" arrangement. The people are guruized by the preacher, and the preacher makes very sure to teach, by warping the Word of God in his favor, that he is the center of all church life and practice.

Thus, every soul in one of these Laodicean churches is clear out from under the final authority of the Lord Jesus Christ. They give Jesus lip service, but they do not really want His Lordship over them. We must note the Laodicean destiny which Jesus promised these people:

Revelation 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

We see that these people are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked. They are a total mess, and you cannot convince them to change. You will waste you breath trying to convince them that they have erred. They have to figure it out for themselves, and very few ever will. This is the last church age, and these Jackboots and their guruized followers will soon enter the Great Tribulation.

"What," you say, "Fundamentalists and Pentecostals.... Going into the Great Tribulation and to hell?" Right! What better way to deceive the world than with old fashioned KJV Only Bible thumping which is designed by Satan to exalt man? Our friend and street preacher, Rich McIntire, said before he died, that he felt the Antichrist would come on the scene carrying a King James Bible. We saw Bill Clinton, in several photo ops, walking out of the Methodist Church where the preacher said Jesus was a queer, carrying a King James Bible. If you think the KJV Only standard in many of these Jackboot churches is some consolation, I have some fantastic ocean front property I want to sell you just 40 miles due east of Miami, Florida.

For the record, I am KJB Only with zero tolerance for funny bibles, but friend, you better not leave it at that.

That Jackboot preacher who is bashing sheep in your neighborhood is a type of the Antichrist, for, in the Name of Christ, he is making a little god of himself. The church which would follow him has had its candle stick removed by Jesus, they have been "spued," and they are post-Christian-- sub-Christian. You owe them nothing but mighty rebuke.

You better get this right friend. The Jackboot church and its pastor have put Jesus Christ on the OUTSIDE of the local church, and they are without a savior. No other church, messed up as it was in Revelation 2-3, had Jesus standing on the OUTSIDE of the church. This includes the Roman Whore age in Chapter Two (Thyatira-- Rev. 3:18-29). Some of you won't like that, but I can tell you that I have a Catholic priest friend who is far less self-exalting than the average Jackboot pastor I have had to deal with. The Catholic Church has Jezebel inside their church, but they don't have the measure of Satan that Laodicea does. Check it out. This does not mean that my Catholic priest friend is born again, but the point is, Laodiceans are mad with self-love. Many of them make Robert Schuler look paranoid. Their pastor may very likely be demon possessed and was never born again.


NO TIE IN HAMMOND-- Damnation on the rebel


Just read about the truck driver who was afraid to come into church after those guys at another church wouldn't let him in without a tie.

Same thing happened to me in 1974, the Sunday after I graduated from Indian Creek Jr. High in Trafalgar, Indiana. I had on the new white dress shirt, black dress pants, new shoes that I wore on my graduation that Friday afternoon, and when I got off the church bus Sunday morning at ____________ Bible Church near my home in ___________, Indiana, I was stopped by the pastor, name of P________, who told me I was "indecent" because I didn't have a tie. Now, this is the wrong thing to do to a then-14 year old teenager. He embarrassed me right in front of the whole church.

I WALKED the entire five miles back home and told my dad what he'd done. Dad worked him over pretty good when the sorry rat came back on "visitation" later that week, and he threatened to have him arrested if he ever came back. This nearly turned me forever against Christianity. I didn't accept Christ until 1980, when I was an Airman stationed in Oklahoma.

I moved to Tennessee in 1985, and it was here I met my wife. We were married in another Independent Fundamentalist church here, _______, in 1988. The preacher remarked, "Why, we've done plenty of 'poor' weddings!", which was an obvious slam against me as I was employed as a Security Guard at the time and didn't make a whole lot of money.

Eventually, they goaded me into going to Tennessee Temple University in Chattanooga, and I got so sick of Independent churches I eventually just gave up and quit. In 1992, I wound up with pneumonia and my wife would go pick up my class work and I'd do this at home to keep my grades up. I finished that year with a B- or C. I had made the proper arrangements with the school because of my illness so I wouldn't get demerits for not being in church and chapel.

Well, lo and behold! I get back to my home town after school was out and go back to _________ Baptist, and that weasel, Bob __________, the assistant pastor, SLANDERED me from the pulpit in front of the entire congregation for 'not obeying the rules of Tennessee Temple.." That was the last straw. I caught him outside and busted him in the mouth and told him what a liar he was. I never went back to TTU, and have never set foot inside another Independent church again!

We eventually joined the Southern Baptist church I previously attended, and have been there ever since. I stopped going there for a time because some of the miscreants from _________ Baptist followed me, and started spreading malicious gossip about me at our new church. I told the pastor if he didn't want a slander suit on his hands he'd better "counsel" certain loose-tongued members or all hell would shortly break loose. He promptly kicked these people out and I have had no further problems.

These whacko fascist fundamentalists make me sick. They nearly caused me to reject Christ with their legalism. I'm currently researching for a short book about these UN-Christian fundamentalists, and would love to hear from ANYONE who's had these sorts of experiences in Independent Fundamentalist churches! I love your site. You hit it right dead center!

Willie S______



Letter from Bob

Thanks for the suggestion.

I've been to every KJV church in San Diego that I'm aware of including _________; I could tell you some interesting stories. Several have Hyles ties and tendencies. At least one pastor who claims to be KJV is hoping for a better translation. The content of the preaching is generally shallow and, all too often, unsound -- but they make up for lack of content with the obligatory bellowing and tasteless, ill-advised levity.

In addition, self-indulgence, arrogance and/or lack of repentance in the face of unbecoming behavior, even on the part of some pastors, a severe shortage of Godly meekness, and scandal contribute to foster spiritually dead churches. I regret to say that I have just about given up on fundamental churches as they appear to be forsaking the fundamentals.

There was supposed to be a Bible church at a distance that I thought I'd check out, but I was never able to locate it at the given address -- perhaps it went belly up after the directory was printed.

Although it is some distance away, I have recently visited a small Orthodox Presbyterian church a few times which, surprisingly, is far stronger on the fundamentals as well as on holy living (something on which Baptists often appear weak) than the above-mentioned churches; unfortunately, this church uses the NAS -- so I follow along in my KJV. (Actually, I'm not aware of any denomination that hasn't fallen victim to "textual criticism" and takes a stand on using the KJV, although a few of the cults do... strange day we live in, huh?)

I have also visited a few other denominational churches, none of which are as strong. This begs the question: Which is better: Attend raucous, prideful, perhaps unsound and/or pointless services lacking any real spiritual meat? Or attend a denominational church which does have a strong testimony and powerful preaching? (Joining in membership might be questionable in either case.) Or is it better to stay away altogether? Meanwhile, we are confronted with the admonition of not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together.

Please don't misunderstand; I'm not as forlorn as the above ramblings might suggest. They were only intended to convey the church situation as I have found it. Although some things are hard to understand, I am confident in Christ and rejoice in Him in the midst of these tribulations.

Also, I do get together with a couple of others for Bible study on Sunday evenings.

Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. Heb 13:5


I forwarded the letter from Bob to my friend in a Bible believing church and Bible Institute. He obviously was disappointed that the people who had come to visit a conference in his church were not very helpful in telling him about the church in San Diego. The following letter is his response to Bob's dilemma.


Letter Responding to Bob's letter above:
"The Bluster, The Bombast, and the Bull"

(Speaking of the ones whom Bob had dealt with while visiting Fundametnal churches) I can only think of about one thing to do for these people any more, and it's the same thing I tried to get (an old mutual friend) to do after he got back from the missionfield. Find some little, hole-in-the-wall church out in the middle of nowhere, with some overworked and under- appreciated pastor who needs help, really loves the Lord and his people, and isn't a jackboot. He might not even understand the King James Bible issue. It could be tolerated if he wasn't a Greek jerkscholar and trying to butcher the Bible every chance he had, but maybe just didn't know any better about the Bible issue. There's always a remnant, it seems, in any dispensation, so this type of guy and church does exist. The question is where?

I think God sends the type of pastor that a congregation deserves. Most Christians nowadays like the bluster, the bombast, and the bull. They actually thrive on the "action", until of course Pastor Bomburst has to counsel them because he looked at the offering and found out they didn't tithe last week. I know a family that lives in another state, and they used to follow a certain Jackboot preacher around everywhere he went before he took the church there in that state. I mean everywhere; they went to his meetings wherever he went. They thought he was the greatest thing since sliced bread. It is just about nauseating to think about it.

When I was teaching Sunday school for the teens over in a nearby city, some of them spent a week at some kind of youth meeting at a Fundamental College. When they came back, on Sunday morning I asked them if they had learned anything. One kid said, "Brother ________, it was really cool; one preacher smashed a TV set with a sledgehammer." So, I said, "Maybe it was really cool, but did you LEARN anything?" The kid who told me about the preacher and the TV stared at me like a dog when you whistle and he turns his head sideways and gives you a goofy look. Obviously, the idea that he had gone to a Fundamental College to learn something was new and unusual, and he was caught really off guard by my questions. One sweet little girl raised her hand and said, just as serious as could be, "Brother _______, we didn't learn anything that we didn't already know." That little girl was the daughter of those people who followed the Jackboot preacher everywhere, and was USED to not learning anything.

A church in one city used to have a loudmouth, yelling, screaming, frothing at the mouth hyper-Fundamentalist from Hyles-Anderson as the pastor. He preached on tithing, soulwinning, soultithing, tithesouling, wintithing, and tithewinning, and then started over. Some years back he had some zipper trouble, so they had to get another pastor. Guess what they got? A loudmouth, yelling, screaming, frothing at the mouth hyper-Fundamentalist from Hyles-Anderson, who preaches on tithing, soulwinning, soultithing, tithesouling, wintithing, and tithewinning. We're not supposed to be glad at calamities (Prov 17:5), but it sure is hard not to wish those people an unmitigated disaster. Do they not deserve it, or am I just that carnal?

See, we all know that TV is bad, so if you or I preach about it using only a Bible, it's just the same old thing, and it becomes BORING, thus insuring we are never billed on flyers as a "fiery, dynamic speaker"! But, if we would actually smash a TV in front of a bunch of impressionable teenagers, we would then qualify as bona fide, great men of God. Probably we would then get a number of invitations to come and smash TVs at Bible conferences, revivals, and youth rallies at various locations around the country. "Brother ___________, that was one of the greatest messages I ever saw (get it?); could you come and smash a TV at MY church?"

The second advent, for example, makes for much more mundane preaching that is just plain boring, especially if you have no other props than a Bible. (Who cares if Jesus is coming back, anyway?) If Nintendo-style action and sound effects could be worked into the message, though, it would be "really cool, Preacher." Most preachers and churches, lacking this type of techno- expertise, have to settle for the sledgehammer. It's still good and loud that way, and hey, the splinters fly all over the platform. If you get a really old TV, the tube explodes. Coooooolll.

With all the people out there like this guy Bob who want some preaching and teaching, you'd think that every guy that went to our Bible Institute would have a waiting list of churches who wanted him by the time that he graduated. Almost no CHURCHES want good, old-fashioned Bible preaching and teaching. A lot of individuals still do, but the churches in which they sit, for the most part, want nothing to do with it.

I told you that the one church up in (a certain state) had a retired preacher sitting in it (which I didn't even know). I preached on Sunday night on the mind of Christ. He later told the other people in the church,"Ah don' need nun o' thet mahnda Christ stuff. All ah need tuh know is the deth, burrial, an' rezrection." And, because he was a REAL preacher, not at all like me, half of the church agreed withn' him. This is the church where the men went out to smoke in the parking lot between Sunday school and church, where the choir director was unsaved and had his hand in the offering plate unless somebody watched him carefully, and where one man on the pulpit committee (who had just started to come back to church after not setting foot in a church for 20 years) said of me, "I couldn't understand a word he said."

Jeremiah 5:31: The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; AND MY PEOPLE LOVE TO HAVE IT SO: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

I think most of the Christians in the U.S. are prodigals who ENJOY the hog pen (see above verse from Jeremiah). Everyone is a flag waver all of a sudden, and is determined not to stand for terrorism up in New York, but Christians have allowed covert terrorist operations to take place in their churches for so long that they are comfortable with getting slaughtered instead of shepherded, and aren't even trying to change things. No wonder every time you hear a broadcast on NPR you hear about how Islam and Christianity are so very similar.

King James Bible only students need to get used to being the pastor of a very small church in an obscure place. This is because a King James Bible believer will never be received into the larger and big city churches. If they are, they will have compromised in other areas. So, the man training to pastor in the USA must be prepared to never be famous, and he will undoubtedly have to work on the side to support himself.




Are there God fearing pastors out there who love the Lord's sheep and humbly serve them and feed them? Are there men who consider other men before they consider themselves? Are there men who are content to be in small places and live their life in sacrifice of personal comfort so that God's people are taught, comforted, and brought into sweet fellowship?

Yes, of course there are. Thank God for them. When you find such a brother in Christ, love and sustain him, and most of all, pray for him. Be his friend, and stop this bragging on, and exalting, your pastor. When you exalt your pastor, you are serving Satan in tempting your pastor to think more highly of himself then he ought to think. The fools in Hammond did this with Jack Hyles. Make sure you pastor is first among equals, but not some popelet who has to be pampered and fawned over like a prima donna.




Let me end this item with an observation. We have made a good number of friends in the past who were NOT the rowdy hireling type. They sure did have zeal, and they preached with force of the Spirit of God in their manner in the pulpit. But, they were not this loud offensive type. There still are men like this, and to you who are such, I can only say, don't let this trend of noise and rage change you. We are NOT under obligation to prove our zeal to anyone.

Our zeal is to be the work of the Holy Ghost, so it should not be turned on and off to accomplish the needs of our punisimous egos. Let us walk circumspectly. Let us not offend the quiet people. They may be some of our most faithful and thoughtful people. If we drive them off by yelling in their faces, we could one day have nothing left but a convention of buffoon's.

Lastly, those are NOT your sheep. They are the sheep of the Master, the Good Shepherd, and YOU ARE ONE OF THEM. You were just as damned to hell, and just as spiritually stupid, as anyone else before you were born again and washed in the Blood of Jesus. You have NO business exalting yourself, or allowing others to exalt you, for you are nothing without Christ. All of your mail order doctorates and your resume are dung, that is, if you are walking in the model of the Apostle Paul.

Now, take a deep breath, exhale, and then tell The Lord Jesus Christ you are ready to be nobody for him. Then pick up the phone, and call some dumb lamb who keeps making trouble for you, and take him out to lunch of coffee at HIS favorite cafe.




BACK TO WAR ROOM- War at the church house













Fundamentalism started in about 1925. Some conference was called somewhere and the "Fundamentals of the Faith" were laid down in a sort of manifesto. This was in response to German rationalism and the earliest trends in ecumenism from Scotland and the deadening of the old line seminaries in the USA.

The thing seemed good, and it did make for a new name of derision used by the intellectuals of Christendom.

"You are a Fundamentalist!"

The religious rags picked up on it over the years, and the media finally made it a vocabulary item for the whole world. During those years, this was a red badge of courage to those who were on the narrow way, for they were considered the weird and kinky folks of Christendom. The thing was actually a healthy thing for Bible believers. They had an identity which helped them step out of the broad way into the narrow Fundamentalist way.

As we got into the 60s and 70s it became more acceptable to be a Fundamentalist. The Baptist Bible Fellowship had made its formal and complete flight from the Southern Baptist Convention, and they were starting to call themselves Fundamentalists. The Independent Fundamental Churches of America was by then an old organization, and they were formalizing their forces and recruiting men like John MacArthur. Jerry Falwell, who once held a party for Mr. Moon, was called "Mr. Fundamentalist." The end of the process has come as Billy Graham, who says God receives sincere Buddhists as they are, is being lifted up by the media as the leader of Fundamentalism in the world.

I am out of here folks.






Baptist Bride--
Urban legend first class

Thousands of gullible Baptists in the pew are being told they belong to the only true church. They are taught to believe that every other professing believer in Jesus Christ, worldwide, is either a secret Brider, or else they are not born again. One mail order doctor told us this when we confronted him. He told us we were Briders and did not know it yet. That is just exactly what John Paul II tells me. He claims I will come back to Papa one day soon.

It is the height of effete snobbery for such a beggarly small group of Neo-Nazi bigots to think they are the pure ones, for there are NO Briders in many parts of the world where the Lord has His built His Church. Nor do they have a clue that they are suspect and allegedly on their way to hell, at least according to the Brider blarney.

One cheeky doctor in California wants us to accept him as a fine man of God while he tears our face off for not being counted among the Brider number. What a blasted fool. This is precisely what the Popes of Rome did for about 800 years until recent Popes put on the kid gloves. To organize under a name, then add a doctrine, is reverse logic. The only one with this doctrine, from 300 AD until the Briders came along in very recent years, was the Pope!

The Body of Christ existed as soon as the saints in Jerusalem began to meet to pray and fellowship, and that church was NOT Baptist. It was Jewish, and no other church has ever existed like it. Why? Simply this-- Nearly all the saints in the church in Jerusalem were God fearing Jews BEFORE the Cross. They were NOT Baptists.

The name Baptist was not applied to any churches until about 1400 when the Anabaptists came into existence. Until that time, the saints were called Donatists, Winklers, Stablers, Abergensians (who were mildly heretic in denying the Old Testament like some Baptists defacto), Waldenseans, Cathari, and finally Anabaptists. Ironically, they did not name themselves-- the Pope called them Anabaptists in derision, for they rebaptized all their converts from the Whore. None of the groups before the Anabaptists even spoke the word "Baptist" of themselves.

But, some of these jerk Briders claim that all those groups were "secret Baptists." It is sort of the idea, like the rock in the wilderness, that the name "Baptist" followed all the Lord's saints underground as a deep dark secret from John the Baptist onward, and that is precisely what the Briders claim.

We have come to the point at this Journal, where we now consider all Briders as unsaved, for they have taken on the Whore doctrine of Papal authority. They claim a church is not valid if it comes into existence without another Brider church officially blessing it. They claim Apostolic succession from John the Baptist, or at least Paul. They will flatly tell you that Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost cannot start a local church without their approval.

Thus, if you are a Brider and refuse to repent, you risk damnation. You are a blasphemer of Jesus Christ, who said:

Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

JESUS is the Head and founder of every true church, not some fat faced pot bellied Jackboot Baptist preacher with cherry pie stains on his tie. I have declared war on these scum. Why? Answer: They have wounded many saints and think they are cute. I hope to be faithful to my Lord to hate them with perfect hatred and tear down their stronghold. I hope, in the spirit of Jehu, to do them as much damage as I can in my lifetime.

If you are a Brider, you are not a Baptist, you are a devil. You do NOT believe Jesus can build a church without your approval, and you are just another Pope. All Popes go to hell.

Psalm 139:21 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.

How about copying this and send it to a Brider?
















Proverbs 31:3 Give not thy strength unto women, nor thy ways to that which destroyeth kings.

The counterfeit of the Bride of Christ, in the Word of God, is called a Great Whore. From the Anabaptists through Luther and on through the Wesley brothers, all Bible believers have seen the Roman Catholic Church as a whore.

Now, a whore does not care about the politics, education, integrity, or methods of a pimp. All the whore cares about is that the pimp send her customers for her vile profession. The Roman Catholic Church lives up to this illustration well. I knew a priest in Arizona who confessed to believe in Jesus Christ alone for his salvation. He replaced the crucifix with an empty cross, and he removed most of the images from the sanctuary. He worked hard, and he kept his mother with him in his apartment so that the parishioners would know that he was not secretly fornicating.

In the same city was a priest who was known to be a drunk and a sex pervert. He had a Nazi eagle on a shelf in his library. Did the Whore care? Not at all. The bishop of southern Arizona used both priests to keep control of the Catholic population. The decent priest had much more impact of course, because the population trusted him and loved him. He taught 10 Bible studies around the city plus catechism classes, and Catholics I met who went to his church knew their Bibles and their Catholic doctrine. The Whore was happy with both priests. They kept both the wicked and the decent Catholics faithful.

Problem: We have Fundamental churches and Charismatics who pimp for the Whore. We have Paul Crouch, who is presently dealing with a sodomy accusation and whose wife does not live with him, and we had Jack Hyles who boldly claimed he prayed to his mother-- I heard him myself. We have Presbyterians and Methodists who join the Whore at the Mass, and we have jackboot Fundamental preachers who attack the assurance of the saints with accusatory preaching and altar calls in which they make saints into devils, EVERY SUNDAY.

The Whore is delighted will all her pimps. When the priest beds down the ladies, or the preacher marries a man and lady in the middle of the night, destruction prevails. The Whore is satisfied. The pimps are drawing the saints AND sinners into one fold-- the fold of doubt and rebellion. Satan and his Whore have what they want, as Francis Schaeffer said, "death in the city." This is the "city of God" of Augustine-- Mother Church, Mother Whore's fold. There is a Universal Church, the Seed Bride, and a Universal Tare Whore. And, they are all mixed up together at this end of the Age of Grace.

Question: Are you following a pimp to the Whore?

Proverbs 6:23 For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life:
24 To keep thee from the evil woman, from the flattery of the tongue of a strange woman.

Many men, like our Web journal, in small places around the world, are calling the sheep to follow Jesus. Many more, in ALL church backgrounds, are calling the sheep to follow them to the Whore.

The Pope's priest, and the narrowest Fundamental preacher, are telling you, "Follow me, and I will follow Jesus." This is blasphemy. The whole New Testament is about following Jesus.

John 21:20 Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee?
21 Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do?
22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me.

What shall this Jack Hyles do? What shall this Benny Hinn do? What shall this John Hagee do? What shall this Fundamental KJV only preacher do? What shall Steve Van Nattan do?

WHAT IS THAT TO THEE?-- Follow thou Jesus Christ.

Let me ask you a question. What if Steve Van Nattan turned out to be a plant for Opus Dei or the Jesuits? If I went to the Vatican and was exalted to become a Cardinal, would you fall away, or would you walk on down the road following Jesus? If you are not sure, you better get your eyes back on the Author and Finisher of your faith and OFF OF men.