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FLAT EARTH HERETICS
How can a Bible believer make a great fool of himself and the Lord's Church?
By Steve Van Nattan
The End Times are certainty becoming colorful, but some of this stuff is really an aggravation.
Timothy 4:6 If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt
be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of
good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained.
WHAT IS THE FLAT EARTH THEORY? "KEEP AN OPEN MIND"
WHO TEACHES THIS HERESY?
6. Satellites. How do satellites stay in orbit? The reason they do is because they are parked at just the right point, and at just the right speed, to meet a perfect compromise between gravity and escape from orbit.
If you tie a ball to a string, stand on a football field (flat earth), and swing the ball around your head, the ball will keep going just fine. Let go of the string, and the ball flies off, AND it falls to the ground. The only object which meets the criterion of a satellite staying in perfect position is a sphere around which to orbit. The other model, a flat world, will require propulsion added to the satellite to keep it aloft, and we all know that satellites are not self-propelled.
7. People with high powered telescopes have watched the International Space Station pass in front of the moon. With the flat earth model of the solar system, this would be impossible. If you are reading here, and if you believe that the satellite system is a big hoax and conspiracy, AND, if you have a dish antenna on your roof, what is that antenna pointed at, a passing crow?
By the way, some of you flat deluded souls have a double dose of stuck on stupid. You believe the universe is geocentric. For the gullible souls, this means that all the objects in the universe rotate around the earth. This is impossible for one simple reason. The stars would have to be traveling around the earth at many times the speed of light to make it all the way around the earth in 24 hours, or even to stay in a geocentric orbit so that they stayed in the positions we see them. I am assuming you are one of those who believe the earth does not rotate but is stationary.
For some enlightenment of the ignorant, let us determine the speed the sun would have to be traveling in order to circle the earth every 24 hours. The formula is C=2PiR, C being circumference and R the radius. Using a radius of 93 million miles, we find that the sun would have to make a complete orbit around the earth at about 7000 Miles Per Hour. At that speed, the sun would leave a significant tail like a comet. Can you imagine how fast Betelgeuse and Arcturus have to be traveling to stay in geocentric orbit around the earth? This assumes you believe that the earth does not rotate, which these doofus geocentrists do not. This is also the reason the committee decided, some time ago, that the sun is only 4000 miles from the earth. That fixed the insane math problem with nothing to back it up.
Flat Earth doctrine takes a lot more faith than to just believe, "Thus saith the Lord....."
But, the Bible warns us about these alleged Bible teachers who teach scientific lies.
1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
The flat earth theory is in clear opposition to the facts. Look at a photo from space, and you see a round earth. The flat earthers will tell you all of these photos are manufactured to deceive you and hide the flat earth. This conspiracy alibi for insane logic will be discussed further on.
Round earth photo from the moon
I also must warn you that there are flat earthers who do not believe the theory at all. They have joined the movement in order to have some fun messing with people's minds. For this reason, do not waste your time debating with a flat earther. He may just be trying to befuddle you to amuse himself.
Psalms 4:2 O ye sons of men, how long will ye turn my glory into shame? how long will ye love vanity, and seek after leasing? Selah.
Leasing is lying. When you take up the flat earth or geocentric universe theories, you make a total shame of yourself and all your Bible believing friends. The wicked, who hate Christ, take great delight in mocking at what they believe are the novel and absurd things Christians believe. If we are to be mocked from the science side of life, let it be over creation, climate change, or life in the womb. We have no business taking up with rubbish science.
2 Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Flat earth and geocentric universe promoters are creeps. They prey on gullible woman and their pansy pie eyed husbands. They are all laden with sins, which implies that one reason they have detoured into Mother Goose science is because there is something very evil in their lives which they want to hide behind their new found obsession.
As with many Mother Goose theories, the facts which slap the ordinary observer in the face are easily dismissed. Any facts which mitigate against the flat earth or geocentric theory are said to be the result of a massive world wide conspiracy. We are asked to believe that NASA, the US Government, all educational institutions, and all of those same entities in China, Russia, Europe, and Japan are in on the conspiracy. And, I find online that the viewer is told that if he does not join the flat head cult, he will become de facto a part of the conspiracy.
Any system of doctrine or alleged science, when it bumps up against contrary facts, which always resorts to the claim that there is a conspiracy, is a system of fools and mental midgets. The universal magnitude of a conspiracy which fakes the solar system, fakes all satellites above 12,000 miles, fakes all photos into and from space, and fakes the whole navigational system of the earth, is impossible. No conspiracy can gather in that many people to all agree to deceive the masses without a man of academic stature blowing the whistle now and then. We are talking about a conspiracy of billions of people, not just a couple thousand willing shills, as with Climate Change.
There is a name for this- paranoia. "The whole world is against us because we know the inner secret."
Evolution is the only theory in world history that has ever been more universally pervasive than the flat earthers' cult. Even the theory of evolution is not accepted by a number of academics. A scientist named Immanuel Velikovsky (see photo) came up with the Catastrophic Theory of the origin of the earth. He was not a Christian, but he had millions of followers, and his theory is now in renewal among trendy science buffs. There have been a number of cosmologists who have broken with the flow as to the origin of the universe. And, evolution is the single most pervasive conspiracy in modern times.
So, when your pastor tells you that the reason you never heard of the flat earth theory, until he started teaching it, is because the United Nations and NASA are covering up the truth, your pastor is a blithering idiot. He has bought into a lie, and if God does not chasten him soon, you need to assume he is not a born again Christian. No true man of God will be allowed by God to promote lies and rubbish in the Lord's Church without chastening. If I were in your situation, I would find another church.
I have not posted these links here to amuse you. These sites cover many of the claims of the flat earth theory which I have not dealt with in this article. It is a huge discussion, and you need to see how these people think and behave.
STEFAN MOLYNEUX ANSWERS A FLAT EARTH PROPONENT
Stefan is noted for thinking with the questioner, but he ends up trashing nonsense.
THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE BRETHREN IS MAINLY ABOUT HATE
Eric Dubay is the godfather of modern flat earthism. But, his web page shows that he despises anyone else who gets any attention beside him.
MIRAGES FROM OVER THE HORIZON AT SEA
This has deceived many sailors at sea who thought they were near another ship or land.
TEN FLAT EARTH CLAIMS DEBUNKED
This is done by a teen ager who is not a Christian, but his responses are very rational. He used the five minute video just above to debunk.
MYTH OF THE SKY IS A BOWL OVER THE EARTH
Many ancient myths are presented as if they are authoritative. This shows how gullible these people are. I spend six years studying the origins of Middle Eastern religion, and there are thousands of myths similar to this which the ancients used to explain the unknown. Myths are NOT science.
NEIL deGRASSE TYSON ON THE FLAT EARTH THEORY
Keep in mind that this man is a fierce Atheist and attacks the creation account vigorously.
DEAN ODLE CLAIMS HE HAD A "PARADIGM SHIFT" BACK TO FLAT EARTH HERESY
The term "paradigm shift" is a New Age term used by Marilyn Ferguson and other New Age gurus. It at one makes this man's journey suspect.
If you enter "flat earth theory" into Google Videos, you will find hundreds of videos promoting the theory. Why are there not more people making videos exposing the hoax?
Answer: It is thought to be too bizarre to give it the time of day. That is what I thought until a lady we care about fell head over heals into the thing. The danger in exposing heresy or science myth is that it will have the reverse effect and draw people into the thing.
The Internet is a powerful force for persuasion, and we now have two generations of people who have had an overdose of myth and legend presented to them as truth. This goes from this flat earth notion to UFOs, Star Wars, New World Order conspiracies, right up to the moment in the hacks and tricks alleged to have been done by both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump in the recent election. We have an overload of rubbish on YouTube, and millions of people are suckered into la la land where Mother Goose and the Wizard of Oz reign supreme.
I have personally been told many alleged truths from people who have no other source than YouTube. They seem to have no ability to come to the Internet with a healthy sense of skepticism.
When I was growing up in Africa in the 1950s, printed pamphlets and materials were rare in Swahili, the local trade language. For this reason, many Africans considered anything in print to be absolutely true. If the parents were illiterate, they would have their kids who attended school read the printed items to them, and they would pin them to the wall of their hut. Even cigarette packages became the final authority on some topic. When we were done with a Sears and Roebuck catalog, African students would beg for the old one, and they would take it home to be used as a reliable source on what America was like. The Russians took advantage of this and printed loads of anti-American propaganda.
YouTube, on the Internet, has become the same thing to millions of gullible victims. And, the flat earth people are having a hay day loading on feature length videos which present the flat earth as Gospel truth. Ninety percent of the sites on the flat earth, which I found on Google, were pro-flat earth. None of them were done by articulate authoritative sources, and few videos are on Google refuting flat earth. But, never mind, some of you people still suck it up like those Africans in 1950.
There is another issue with YouTube, and I have never seen anyone talk about this. Many kids were deprived of certain rites of passage when they were growing up. Research has proved that the majority of men who smoke cigars were weened too early or not nursed by their mothers. Men who join Freemasonry often had no club era as a boy in which they belonged to a secret boys' club that met in the woods or a tree house. Woman who collect dolls later in life were usually deprived of having children.
My theory on the flat earth theory is that these people were deprived ot listening to stories being read to them when they were young. Most kids in the American culture were raised on kids' cartoons and fantasy programs on TV. These kids had all the imaginary images ready made by Hollywood, and they never had to make their own fantasies- no playing cops and robbers, and no playing house with other girls. Their imaginations were not given the freedom to run wild when they were kids, which is a very healthy thing, so when they come onto conspiracies and secret information, they dive in and suck it up. They are now adults, and believing in Mother Goose and the Wizard of Oz is not going to make them a very useful person. Thus, they believe just about everything they see on YouTube, and this becomes their fantasy world and makes them childish in mental behavior.
If you do this, and if you are getting the feeling you need to make a mind shift, I have a suggestion for you to cure yourself. Find books on exploration and adventure..... TRUE STORIES. If you can find documentaries about past events on YouTube, go there, and let you imagination flow with a true story rather than fiction. If you are a gamer, repent. Stop cold turkey, and find youself some area in inquiry that will stir your zeal to get into the real world.
I love to read tales of the old days in Texas because I live here. I can get the feeling I am walking where Big Foot Wallace walked, or I can look at the cattle ranch next door and mentally turn it into the cotton field it was one hundred years ago. You need to find a connection with known history or facts as a sign post to your quest to restore the imagination you were deprived of by Hollywood and TV. If you need help, SEND MAIL, and I will help you fill that empty spot in your life with good stuff.
Psalms 36:1 The transgression of the wicked saith within my heart, that there is no fear of God before his eyes.
2 For he flattereth himself in his own eyes, until his iniquity be found to be hateful.
3 The words of his mouth are iniquity and deceit: he hath left off to be wise, and to do good.
4 He deviseth mischief upon his bed; he setteth himself in a way that is not good; he abhorreth not evil.
These people are here in 2017 just as certainly as they haunted David, the Psalmist. Will you be suckered in by them?
This stuff is addictive. There is a lust to dig deeper and deeper into fantasies and theories which are invented by perverted minds. And, one day, you will not be able to return to reality. Your mind will be captive to the fantasy.
I had a friend in college who decided that if he was going to understand the effects of LSD, he would have to try it himself at least once. He wanted to be a psychiatrist some day. He did try it, and he had a very beautiful "trip." He later regretted doing this, and he told me it took him six months to convince himself there is not another reality out there which can be reached via LSD. The fact that he had tested 200 on an IQ test failed to help him leave the LSD fantasy behind. Your fascination with the flat earth theory is exactly the same. You are now convinced there is another complete explanation for reality, that is, as to the universe. You may need to seek out a pastor or evangelist to pray with you for deliverance the same as if you were possessed of devils. It is entirely possible that you ARE possessed with a devil.
Isaiah 44:20 He feedeth on ashes: a deceived heart hath turned him aside, that he cannot deliver his soul, nor say, Is there not a lie in my right hand?
And, when your pastor, or some famous Amos preacher, picks up on some myth, will you follow along without question?
James 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.
Acts 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
Ephesians 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Titus 1:10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:
11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.
12 One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.
13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
Key word- Reprobate- Means worthless, castaway, rejected.
There is nothing improper in rejecting a preacher or teacher who tries to lead Bible believers into myths and false science. In fact, it is a noble act of service to Christ to publicly point these people out and rebuke them boldly.
Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
Put the hammer to them.
For you who are reprobate and would like to debate these things:
"We do not debate the Truth. We declare it." Martin Lloyd Jones
If you must cling to your fictions and myths, I have no more pearls to cast.
One last warning though..... You are destroying your testimony for Christ. Rational people who have even a smattering of science study in their past KNOW you are a fool. Why would they trust you to deal with the destiny of their soul?
Who will go to Hell because you made such as ass of yourself that sinners reject the Gospel also?
WHAT SHOULD BE DONE WHEN THIS IS BROUGHT TO THE CHURCH?
Having covered many Bible texts in the discussion above, any pastor reading here will be doing a minor panic right about now. "What do I do when some church member brings this to church some Sunday morning?"
This flat earth heresy will totally trash you church's testimony if the word gets out in the community that you even tolerate someone in your fellowship who chatters about the topic. You must not linger when you hear of it. You must speak to the person at once and tell them that, under NO circumstances, will they talk about the flat earth myth in your local church.
There are several topics which, if they become table or foyer conversation in your church, will put you on the bull's eye for mockery in the community and even possibly a visit from Homeland Security or the FBI.
Guns- Gun talk in private is harmless, but in a public gathering it sounds like a movement.
The US Constitution- Nothing must replace the Word of God as written authority.
Patriotism to an obsession- Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Tax rebellion- This will get you a visit from the IRS and possibly a visit to check your personal taxes.
Flat earth theory
Computer games- There is no topic more meaningless, especially for young people.
Anarchy- Even the allegedly benign type
Most conspiracy theories- Never preach conspiracy theories for any reason. Preach Christ and the Word.
Alex Jones- This man may very well be a plant by a US Government agency.
Rush Limbaugh- He has a filthy mouth at times.
Filthy communication, as in dirty jokes
Man flirting with women or girls
Man who drifts to the ladies to visit instead of the men- He is perverted.
Amway Distributors- Especially if they use the church for business contacts and pamper YOU.
Bawdy women- They dominate their husbands and are famous in the community as pests.
Woman who touch men when they talk to them
Men- Visa versa
As the pastor of the church, you need to mention these in passing from time to time as topics not appropriate in gatherings of the church people. They make visitors come to conclusions which may well result in them never coming back.
One Sunday we went to church in Tennessee, and the men were in the foyer talking about what sort of violence they would do to certain moral degenerates if they were confronted. What they might do was not what bothered me. But, to find this the topic of discussion when I am entering the local church to fellowship and worship was troubling. And, a couple of young men had their pocket knives open and tossing them back and forth from hand to hand like street gang members. I mentioned it to the pastor, and soon after that day he mentioned violent talk and threats against evil people as highly suspect talk for church fellowship. I was encourage at what he did.
Again, the flat earth theory discussion, if heard by visitors to your church, will result in the whole community learning you are a bunch of nut cases. After all, what is the by-word for a weird obsessed person who talks crazy? "He is a flat earth boy."
Ultimately, if a member or visitor cannot refrain from chattering about the flat earth heresy, run them off. I don't care how important they seem to your church life. Get them out the door, and do not let them back until they recant with conviction from the heresy. My experience as a pastor with such distractions has been that the direct one on one approach is best. Do not wait to discuss it with the church board or leaders. Slap it down yourself so that some soft headed member does not plead the cause of the trouble maker.
Do not send mail to correct me or debate flat earth. I am 100% bigoted against the rubbish. If you learn of a pastor or Christian teacher who is promoting this heresy, please send that. If you have an observation which supports my bias, I would be interested. Again, I will ban your email address if you send mail defending this myth. There is no mercy here this time.