Issues Commentary This is a YouTube site
featuring Pastor Bob De Waay Twin
City Fellowship web
site which is also Pastor Bob DeWaay's site His
local church site Caveat:
They use non- KJV Bibles, and they have associations with some people that
are exposed in error on this journal. But, many practical theology issues
are well taught here
this site The Lord Jesus Christ is the eternal Son of the Living
3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for
the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
18:46 The LORD liveth; and blessed be my rock; and let the God
of my salvation be exalted.
site will make you think and react at the extremes. This is just fine. Some
readers will hate us, and some will love us for Christ's sake. Why be
blunt and forceful? Simply this-- You will find it very hard to communicate
with a man once he is dead. Why be tactful and tempt people to
procrastinate about eternity?
may be shocking to some of you dear souls, but the New Testament Church was identified
by the homes they met in.
Corinthians 16:19 The churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla salute
you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house.
4:15 Salute the brethren which are in Laodicea, and Nymphas, and the church
which is in his house.
1:2 And to our beloved Apphia, and Archippus our fellowsoldier, and to the
church in thy house:
Apostle Paul NEVER build a brick and mortar "church", and he never
bought real estate and claimed it was a "church." MORE
ON THIS IN THIS JOURNAL
local church may meet in homes, IHOP, the city park, or a rented store front.
We will never own real estate. We have no schedule or hours for meeting. We
have our homes and our zeal for Christ and his Church.
needs Christian fellowship in the Texas Hill Country?
are the End Times. Men's hearts "are waxing worse and worse." Is this
a surprise? Not at all, for God said that is exactly how it would be in our era.
But, God nowhere told us to suspend our zeal for him or for one another in Christ
Jesus just because the wicked get wickeder (new world I fear :-)
how are those on the narrow way dealing with the End Times in Austin, Texas and
vicinity? Not very well.
church in Austin, Texas did a research on churches of all kinds in Travis, Williamson,
and Hays counties. They compared this area to other metropolitan urban areas similar
to Austin. The result was frightening. It turns out that the Austin metropolis
has far fewer churches per capita than most other American cities. This is startling
for a state founded by Scotch Irish Presbyterians.
we have to assume that there are a significant number of Bible believers in the
Austin environs who cannot find a like-minded church to fellowship with. Elijah
spent three years living beside the brook Cherith with only a flock of ravens
for fellowship. Elijah thought he was the only one left who was right with God.
The big church in town (Samaria) was the temple of Baal. That was no place of
fellowship for God's man.
you sometimes feel like Elijah? God told Elijah that he had seven thousand in
Israel who had not bowed to Baal. In these last days of the Church Age we need
to leave Cherith and go find some of those faithful few who have not bowed the
knee to Rich Warren and the hog slop church.
have no illusions about starting some sort of big church growth movement, but
we do feel moved of the Lord to seek fellowship with any of Christ's people who
still try to find fellowship. Are you one of them?
what is a Local Church?
John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto
you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6 If we say that
we have fellowship with him, (God)
and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: 7 But if we walk in the
light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood
of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
New Testament local church is made up of ONLY people who walk in fellowship with
Jesus Christ, and they crave fellowship with other Bible believers.
18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the
midst of them.
that defines a local church gathering is a minimum of two believers and their
Head, Jesus Christ. We make NO apologies for not pushing for numbers or fame.
We are the "few there be that find" life in Jesus Christ. The many are
in mega churches feeding their lusts on the way to hell. If warming a church pew
with their back side saved anyone, most of the Mafia would go to heaven. They
go to Mass frequently.
thrive on fellowship with each other and with Christ with the Word of God as our
only guide. We have no secrets, not hidden agenda, and no demands on you. Just
BE what Christ asked you to be, and we may have some very good fellowship in Christ.
John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar,
and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is
the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 6 He that saith
he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
keep Christ's commandments (NOT the law of Moses), and we want to walk as he walked.
We are not sinless and will not be until we are taken to be with Christ in heaven,
but we are also not satisfied with any point along the way. We provoke one another
to keep growing and becoming more like Jesus.
do we avoid?
John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist
shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the
last time. 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they
had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out,
that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
antichrists of today are mostly in organized churches. They went out into darkness.
We refuse to follow, and they are not welcome with us. If you want the warm fuzzies,
please stay in your mega church bunkie.
consists of whole families of Bible believers..... who read the Word of God,
Colosians 4:`6 who pray together, Ephesians 6:18 who give (person to person)
to other Bible believers who are in need, I Corinthians 16:1-2 who submit first
to Christ and then to each other, I Peter 5:5 who are edified as God uses
men in the fellowship to teach the Word, Ephesians 4:11-13 who remember the
Lord's death in the Lord's Supper, I Corinthians 11:26 and who sing and
make melody to God. Ephesians 5:19
is regulated ONLY by the Word of God, NOT by traditions or by creeds.
is not evangelism, so if you are not a born again Bible believer you are not particularly
encouraged to seek fellowship with our church. If you are not born again yet,
please seek out one of our people to help you learn about the Gospel
and how to confess your faith in The Lord Jesus Christ. This is the first qualification
for joining in fellowship with us. The other qualification is that you and we
are like-minded in Bible doctrine.
have no contemporary aspect. We sing old hymns of the faith from a hymn book.
We do not need instruments, though we may use them. We have no youth group-- we
are a family. We have no laws, but we insist that modest apparel and godly manners
must always be evident. If you come to us in immodest apparel, we will ask you
to go home and change. This applies to children and youth also. Do not come looking
like you just climbed out of a dumpster. Wear your best casual clothes. It is
a sorry commentary on American culture that many people never dress well until
they are laying in a coffin.
you have tattoos, wear clothing that will cover them, even if they are meant to
be "Christian." Clothing with messages on it will be examined by the
leaders. Plan to simply avoid this please. In other words, do not "come as
you are." Come expecting Jesus to approve of your appearance. You may be
sure Jesus did not go up to the temple in a T-shirt and shorts and a big tattoo
on his chest that said "ABBA FATHER."
Corinthians 14:40 Let all things be done decently and in order.
17:1 Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will
come: but woe unto him, through whom they come! 2 It were better for him that
a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he
should offend one of these little ones.
will be offenses when two or more people meet. It is part of being fallen humans.
When you are offended, if it is clear that no offense was intended, YOU are the
problem, not we who are in regular fellowship. If something is taught that offends
you, feel free to speak one-on-one with the teacher WHEN NO ONE ELSE IS PRESENT.
If you make a scene you will be immediately asked to leave. We do NOT tolerate
agents provocateur for any reason.
you are a spy for some other spiritual entity, or for Caesar, we will respond
easily to your questions which are NOT asked in the fellowship time. We have nothing
to hide from Caesar. If you, a government agent, come ONLY because you are a Bible
believer and seek fellowship without guile, welcome. If we discern you have an
ulterior motive, you will be instructed to leave at once. Be honest with us, and
we will try to be helpful.
do not tolerate any conversation that is loaded with references to the US Constitution,
guns rights, tax rebellion, political intrigue, extreme doctrinal opinions, conspiracy,
or general gossip that has nothing to do with building up the saints in the most
4:5 Walk in wisdom toward them that are without, redeeming the time. 6 Let
your speech be alway with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought
to answer every man.
to Charismatic manifestations as commonly seen in some churches, we do not allow
any of them. If you want to speak in tongues or roll on the floor and cackle like
a hen, please move on.
bring a King James Bible (NOT New KJV), and leave all other versions at home.
We do not allow any other Bibles to be read out loud or quoted in our gatherings.
We would tolerate the Geneva Bible if you do not quote the footnotes. MORE
ON THIS MATTER
more request. When we meet for fellowship, please do not chatter on and on about
how badly some other local church treated you. If you have nothing else on your
mind, you are very bitter, and there is nothing edifying in bitterness. Thanks
now you are asking, "What is your creed or doctrinal statement?"
The King James Bible- original version.
we need is the Bible to define us, teach us, and discipline us to come into the
image of Christ Jesus.
are not a nonprofit corporation, in fact, we are not a corporation in any way
at all. Thus, we have no document but the Bible, we have only biblical leaders,
and we are not democratic. Either the leading men, or all the regular fellowship
friends gathered, will make all decisions. Nothing is acted upon unless there
is one mind.
have NO rights when you fellowship with us. Until we are convinced that you are
truly born again and have a public confession and life based in zeal for Jesus
Christ your opinion on procedural matters will seldom be sought. If you show ANY
signs of climbing and exalting yourself in our fellowship, you will be dismissed
you have a suggestion, support it from the King James Bible, and then only to
one of the men. Ladies speak of these things only with the older women who will
pass it on to the leading men.
and fathers-- if your wife or children push themselves forward and dominate, we
will require you to leave. Loud cheeky brats will not be tolerated. Carelessness
to seniors will be rebuked soundly. Flirting with the ladies or girls by any visitor
will result in sudden ejection from the gathering. We will NOT permit the fellowship
to be abused by hustlers, young or old. During informal times it is desired that
men fellowship with men, and ladies with ladies. Children must never be treated
as "rug rats." Open offense may be openly rebuked.
all the discussion that sounds a bit defensive?
Most assuredly, "Christian" local churches are social clubs for people
seeking chills and thrills. These sort of people are a pain in the neck to real
Bible believers. We do NOT invite these sort to our fellowship. The reason is
that we want our fellowship times to be open, peaceful, family like, and of no
offense to anyone present. Because of the mega church honky tonk mindset, and
because of the cowboy church rodeo monkey shines in Texas, we find that we must
tell you right up front that we are spiritually peculiar and intend to stay that
Peter 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which
be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the
head of the corner, 8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even
to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were
appointed. 9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation,
a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called
you out of darkness into his marvellous light: 10 Which in time past were
not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but
now have obtained mercy. 11 Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and
pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul; 12 Having
your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against
you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify
God in the day of visitation.
on the line
some occasions you may be asked to sign a statement indicating you want to be
present with us. You will sign away all of your rights, including rights to redress
for any reason. This is ONLY because Caesar may soon require that the only time
a person can share their faith is if they are pointedly asked to. Also, there
are those agents of Satan and other entities who are sent to cause a liability
in order to destroy the peace and safety of a Christian gathering. We will all
do this, not just you, so please understand that we live in perilous times.
Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2
For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers,
disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers,
false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors,
heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a
form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
men in the fellowship will be prepared to safeguard the peace and the security
of the fellowship, both when meeting and in general. Read that any way you want
to, but take it seriously.
are not a social agency. We do not have a "food closet." We take care
of our own. So, if you are hungry, speak to one of the leading men, and if they
have the resources, they may help you personally. Otherwise, you will get little
of nothing from us in the way of "hand outs." This is only here because
of heathen folks who milk Christians for help but hate Jesus and the Gospel.
14:16 Let not then your good be evil spoken of:
if you are caught soliciting our people for commercial gain, or any other entity,
especially militant and political causes, we will evict you at once. We are the
people of God, not the Militia or the Tea Party.
you feel that this presentation calls you to fellowship, please give me a call.
I personally (Steve Van Nattan) simply do NOT care to play games with "church
tramps" who hustle in church or make a vocation of roaming around looking
for trouble. This discussion is meant to get all of the unpleasant matters out
of the way so that we may at once have one mind in Christ because we see eye to
pray that a few of you who read here will be like minded, and thus, we may find
sweet fellowship in The Lord Jesus Christ.
not belly ache.... Exalt Jesus Christ
seekers of fellowship and for charitable conversation, PHONE
THIS NUMBER: 512-673-3309
occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves
up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." Winston Churchill
you visit Texas from time to time? If so, please contact us. We run to
restaurants to find one time fellowship with Bible believers from anywhere
in the world.
FOLLOWS BELOW IS A LIST OF ARTICLES IN THE JOURNAL-- BLESSED
QUIETNESS By Steve Van Nattan
latest articles is at the top.
FOLLOWING STORY HAS BEEN IN PROGRESS
AT THIS JOURNAL SINCE 1997. THIS MAY BE THE MOST COMPLETE ACCOUNT OF TRECANI'S
LIFE ANYWHERE. I HAD TO DIG IT OUT OF BIBLE BELIEVING ITALIAN SITES AND OTHER
known as: Giovanni Battista Treccani, Nephew of Pope Paul VI, is Born Again, seemed
to disappear, and is found John
the Baptist Treccani was born in Italy in a traditionally religious family. The
mother, the sister of Pope Paul VI, was a devout Catholic, and was very dear to
the religious formation of their children. Since childhood, John the Baptist Treccani
felt the desire to live closer to God. The following is the biography, history,
and testimony of his conversion to Jesus Christ.
TURNING POINTS OF WORLD HISTORY Twenty epochs of God
dealing with humanity from a biblical viewpoint. Part 1 - 4
WE USE- PART ONE This
is one of the most aggressive and vicious attacks I have ever made on the kingdom
of Satan. Why? Because I damn the words we all use carelessly, and even I do not
like what I wrote. I admit that I am guilty in a few cases, but I will not hold
back one entry. You will hate this article at some point. Good! That is exactly
what I want. Please do not let children read this article
without adult companionship. By the way, A REVISION OF PART TWO IS COMING
"NOBLE BEREAN" ABANDONS CHURCH TRADITION The
man examines all church tradition with only the Word of God, and he found peace
with God in this. In the process, he found himself at enmity with most churched
people because they avoided what the Bible said.
PROVIDENTIAL GLORIOUS SINKING OF THE SPANISH ARMADA This
article must come back to the top. It has been edited, and a BBC video added.
You readers who cling to the US Constitution need to understand that if God had
not been fighting for England in 1588, your "Constitution" would be
Roman Catholic Canon Law.
FALL OF CONSTANTINOPLE This
is the single most important event in Christian history. The Muslim murders and
rapists drove the Greeks into Europe, and with them the monks took the preserved
Word of God in Greek. These manuscripts were later used by the King James Bible
THIS THE BEGINNING OF THE END? Kansas
City Seven (Fellowship) Guru, Bob Jones gives PROPHECY ON PK AND THE WORLD UNITY
OF CHARISMANIA AND PROMISE KEEPERS. This Charismatic Mafia are still hard at work
plotting to take over Christendom, the government, and YOU.
SECTION IN THIS JOURNAL: POWERFUL
CHAPTERS OF THE BIBLE First
Chapter Study: PSALM 91 These
studies will be coming at regular intervals and are meant to encourage, teach,
and trouble you if you need it. Conventional teaching / preaching language is
avoided so that I can be of use to you in Christ.
QUIET PLACE Rest
in the Lord Jesus. Here are a series of pages to put your mind at rest, but not
with a narcotic. You will feel better after visiting here. RECENT
EMAIL FROM WARRIORS IN CHRIST I
get some very thought provoking email from readers, and this is where I share
their thoughts with you. HOME
MAKER'S CORNER Ladies' special helps and Bible discussions.
Learn about home making, home schooling, home survival ideas, ladies' Bible lessons,
and much more. This area has one of the only collections anywhere or Annie Flint
Johnson's poetry. MORAL ISSUES You
will be challenged to think about right and wrong without any gray areas. Many
issues are covered and answered by the King James Bible.
DELUSION IS NOW IN PROGRESS This
is a discussion of God's entering into the world and giving delusion to humanity.
This item may be dropped one day due to US Government censoring and threats. BIBLE
STUDY Bible sermons and studies to grow by. The Bible is
the main event here. We are literalists with no apology. We use only the King
James Bible, and we defend it here. DEFENSE
OF THE KING JAMES BIBLE Many new articles have been posted.
We believe that the King James Bible is the only Bible the Lord uses, and the
one that Satan hates. We are not ignorant KJV thumpers. The whole history of both
the Alexandrian texts and the Antioch texts is dealt with. ZIONISM
CULTS AND INFILTRATION Hebrew Roots, with large doses of pagan Zionism,
is invading churches and demanding the law of Moses be reinstated by the Lord's
Church. It also has a One World New Age connection. THE
WAR ROOM The Christian life is warfare according to the
Apostle Paul. That warfare is not within us, as some mega church wimpy gurus claim.
There are NO issues, teachings, movements, or heretics who will be given immunity
from attack. WARNINGS Profiles
of false prophets, hirelings, and heretics HOUSE
CHURCH The New
Testament Church started in home and stayed there for 300 years until the Whore
of Rome organized "church" and moved into piles of stone. If you like
the home based option, this section will be of great help. THIRD
WAVE-- CHARISMATIC CHAOS Nothing is making more confusion
than the Charismatic Movement, with the exception of the Emergent Church and Rick
Warren. I have just restored a huge number of articles on Charismania which have
been updated and made easier to read. THE
WORLD OUT THERE You get thought provoking discussions of world news,
mongrel political leaders, cultural issues, and more. SURVIVAL
AND HEALTH ISSUES In
these last days of the Age of Grace there are many perils to all of humanity.
We do not claim to be the life guard of all humanity regarding earthly issues.
We DO feel responsible to warn and counselthe saints of Christ in matters earthly.
Nothing it too obscure to be covered. LEGENDS
OF CHRISTIAN HEROES You
will be greatly blessed to read about saints who were faithful and vigorous in
the battle for truth. KIDS Fun
and stories. We are always looking for contributing writers here. YARNS By Steve, the editor, from his life growing up as a pastor's
kid, a missionary kid, an Army man, a piano tuner, a pastor, and a Texan. Some
of the yarns are even true. ONLINE RADIO
MUSIC LIST EDITOR'S PAGE Steve
shares what is happening with the journal. BIO
OF STEVE Your editor's heritage as a Dutch, German, Irish,
Native, WASP, and a African American. COFFEE The lovely brew. A tutorial in coffee history, grading, roasting,
and generally promoting. SHIRLEY
GOD The creed
and confession of a god named Shirley. CHRISTMAS This
section discusses the pagan origins of Christmas and the dating of Jesus' birth.
articles plus Teaching truth to the saints and exposing heretics Using
the King James Bible
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infallible and preserved whithout error, especially those believers in
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Strong delusion from God has taken hold of millions. Is there any
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damned. We stand on the Word of God as the only propositional truth in this
world. Every other standard is absolutely wrong, and we will do anything lawful
to destroy it.
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may save your soul.
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Christianity. Damn them all. I know Jesus Christ, and all I want to hear about
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only read about fifteen books a year other than the Bible. I am reading about
Harry Truman, a satire, the Mau Mau in Kenya in the 50s, heirloom seeds, and the
USSR gulag era right now. I have about twenty books in progress at any one time.
My home and desk are covered with stick up notes. It gives my guests the impression
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did a research and found that their people read one book a year, and they had
the nerve to brag on that. Bah.
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